Cleaver?

[foxwick]

Does anyone know of a source that provides weapon stats for a cleaver?

 

[3d6]

Why not use stats for a pre-existing weapon? Depending on the type of cleaver, it seems like dagger, shortsword, or throwing axe stats could be appropriate.

 

[foxwick]

Why not use stats for a pre-existing weapon? Depending on the type of cleaver, it seems like dagger, shortsword, or throwing axe stats could be appropriate.

I will if it's never been written up - just checking. Throwing axe would seem closest, and it would be exotic unless the character has kitchen experience, I guess.

 

[Mistwell]

Cleaver = Handaxe according to WOTC:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fc/20060317a

"Cleaver Mastery (Ex): In the hands of the voidmind rot reaver, a cleaver (identical to a +1 handaxe) deals quadruple damage on a successful critical hit, instead of the normal triple damage for a handaxe."

 

[foxwick]

Cleaver = Handaxe according to WOTC:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fc/20060317a

"Cleaver Mastery (Ex): In the hands of the voidmind rot reaver, a cleaver (identical to a +1 handaxe) deals quadruple damage on a successful critical hit, instead of the normal triple damage for a handaxe."

Awesome, thanks!

Would "a +1 handaxe" mean masterwork? Seems to me you could have a cruddy cleaver, so that doesn't seem right...

 

[the_mighty_agrippa]

Items have to be of masterwork quality before they can be enchanted at all. So, a +1 item is masterwork before is magical (but magical before masterwork for all other purposes).

 

[foxwick]

Yes, I understand that magic items are made from masterwork items. My confusion lies in the excerpt "a cleaver (identical to a +1 handaxe)", and what the +1 is implying. Does it mean that in the hands of the voidmind rot reaver, cleavers are treated +1 magical, or that in general, all cleavers are slightly better than handaxes, giving a +1 bonus, but that they are not magical?

Edit: And further, if the latter, is the bonus just to attack (like MW), or is it to damage as well?

 

[Mistwell]

I suppose you could take the damage of a normal hand axe, making it that damage +1, and then make it masterwork.

 

[lukelightning]

I'd call a cleaver an improvised weapon.

 

[DungeonmasterCal]

I had a player in my campaign who was the ship's cook (he was also a Mage, from the Birthright 3e rules) who used a cleaver. It was one of the big jobbies, so we decided it was 1d6, Crit 19-20/x2