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I'm still waiting for him to explain what a "masculine gaming content" is...
"It is an excellent opportunity for friends to gather when you play Hunk Rump: The Gathering."
I'm still waiting for him to explain what a "masculine gaming content" is...
Content that glorifies masculinity and/or tends to appeal to men more than women and the genderqueer, esp. content that the latter find unappealing or even repulsive.
In a tabletop gaming context an obvious example would be pinup art, e.g. chainmail bikinis. More subtly, a game that assumes the PCs will engage in bloody combat primarily for conquest rather than to defend their communities or express their social bonds, as D&D used to.
Guess we have to stop discussing about this topic then. If you were not aware, women in third world countries face much worse then people in first world countries. Hundreds of thousands of women raped every year, thousands murdered as part of "honor killings", most young girls forced into arranged marriages. Much worse than people in first world countries can even imagine.
We must prioritize, and all this discussion about harassment in gaming conventions is doing is distracting from the bigger problem.
But by all means continue to focus on the harm done to priviliged people in first world countries if you feel that is the real priority here.
/Sarcasm
See, the problem with your Fallacy of relative privation(AKA The children are starving in Africa! argument) is that there is always a bigger problem. So we can never discuss about anything, since according to you, the world can only talk about one problem at a time.
Dude... a lot of people gaming now can barely add a fixed number to a d20 roll. For some, the GM has to dumb it down to "rage only stats" using one weapon only, and always power attacking. Forget going off power attack. Forget even suggesting TWF -2 penalty."Real nerds"?
"middle of the bell curve"
"must now deal with idiots"
Where do you get the impression that members of the hobby before some point "T" in time before today that nerds were statistically better citizens than everyone else? When was this "Golden Age of Geekdom?
I mean, you do realize we're all humans, and as such, are just as vulnerable to all the same flaws as others. "Nerd-dom" does not innoculate you from being a misnthrope. A con-man. A stalker. A rapist. A killer.
Dude... a lot of people gaming now can barely add a fixed number to a d20 roll. For some, the GM has to dumb it down to "rage only stats" using one weapon only, and always power attacking. Forget going off power attack. Forget even suggesting TWF -2 penalty.
Now, take those people 30 years back when they had to figure out THAC0... I think their brain would implode and they'd walk away to go play rev engine n' burnin tires with the other dumbasses from my home town.
You are rather leaping to conclusions here in a desperate hope of trying to catch me in something. I don't assert that I've ever been mistreated by strangers, deliberately denigrated, or picked on or the like. The very fact that the groups were willing to welcome a stranger into their private activities and play space I would be a louse not to have some gratitude for. In many cases the individuals were quite kind and gracious and as welcoming as they could be under the circumstances.
But I find standards of behavior, standards of content, standards of aesthetics of play, and standards of maturity just vary too widely from table to table. If anything, it's unfair of me to have the expectation that some other table will necessarily cater to my tastes. So one table might delve overtly into occult material I feel uncomfortable with. Another table is content with traditional "beer and pretzels" play, where you kick the doors down, kill the orcs, take there stuff, and never get tired of doing it over and over - while often as not joking around and using the occasion as simply focus for socializing. Another table might turn out to be filled with people who are painfully autistic even by my nerdy standards, so that I can't quite gel with them. One table might be far more comfortable with casual profanities than I am. Another might be entirely power-gamers that enjoy imposing their will on the game and blowing away every obstacle with ease. One group had a DM who thought he was great at extemporeous play... and he just wasn't. Another DM was so purist about metagaming, he refused to let the players see their own character sheets. And so on and so forth. In some cases, I don't actually have a problem with how that table chose to play, it just happened to not be my thing.
Yes, but unless the table is doing something utterly morally repugnant, who is to say the problem isn't mine? Obviously they are enjoying themselves.
It's one thing to not expect another's experiences to be good. It's quite another to expect some other gamer to be in fear for their own safety, or to be subject to harassment or abuse.
I am listening. So far in this thread we have [MENTION=9037]Elf Witch[/MENTION]'s experience of being groped by a Hugo-award winning writer in the late 1970s, and [MENTION=82779]MechaPilot[/MENTION]'s experience of rape by PC proxy in the early 1990s. Did I miss anything?So let's zoom out a bit, okay?
Instead of getting all Zapruder Film on a single blog post, can we acknowledge that there's a rather constant stream of first-hand experiences of harassment, groping, sexual assault, etc. from women gamers? Both in this thread and in others? Not everyone's experienced it, just like not everyone's harassed women.
Big picture here. Adding this to the rest of the evidence, are they just making it up?
That agenda would be ...?
I mean, "Let's be less sexist than we were in the 90's" sounds like a pretty fair goal?
The agenda of removing sexist content from the game...As was asked, what agenda is that?
The context of the joke was her lobbying to reduce the the breast size of female Wyrd miniatures. The biological purpose of mammary glands is to feed babies. Breasts are a secondary sex characteristic.If a woman has been groped, the men and babies re: breasts comparison makes a great deal of sense for her to make, particularly while exasperated about the topic of sexual harassment/assault. The biological purpose of breasts is to feed babies after all.
Of course they're literally possible, but the less likely it is that they occurred, the less we ought to be afraid of those scenarios occurring again.As for your disbelief about the cop and the chant, I can't speak to what Winnipeg is like, but real life can very much be just as horrific as a horror film. Recall that Texas Chainsaw Massacre (a 1970s horror film) had elements inspired by real life murderer Ed Gein. Also, you should be aware that cops are not paragons of humanity. I'm sure we can all find articles online about cops who abused their authority by sexually assaulting women. If some cops are willing to sexually assault the women they pull over (and some very much are), then it's not much of a stretch at all to consider that some cops might react to a claim of rape as was described.
It's not irrelevant to the interests of the forum! People should know that it's by no means proven that Wyrd was complicit in her harassment. They make tabletop games and this is a tabletop games discussion forum.Ultimately, we know for a fact that the terrorism against her occurred. Whether Wyrd was complicit or not in the terrorism against her is irrelevant to the existence of the problem of women being harassed and/or assaulted by members of the gaming community, a problem whose existence has been corroborated by multiple sources, including members of this forum.
My point upthread was that the moral obligation we have to fight against the harassment of women dwarfs that of making games more appealing to women, and one can support the first fight while actually having little interest in the latter.So you want your gaming space to be a "male space"? I'm not sure if that is your intent, but that could be the effect...