I just looked at your page 9. I found the post: Should We Tell Edena?
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW VERY WELL HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE BELOW.
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME? WHY DIDN'T YOU LET ME INTO THE FORUM THEN?
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William Ronald
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Posts: 24
(2/12/02 11:00:11 pm)
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So, when do we tell Edena that we exist?
Well, our little conspiracy proceeds. However, the question is
obvious? When do we tell Edena. He is worried about Zelda. I don't
think anyone suspects our alliance.
Also, Bugbear, do you want to invite Forrester over to these boards.
The UC of Toril is pretty useful. With their aid, we might be able to
get Kas and Vecna in the first few minutes.
The shadow of my former self
Your friendly neighborhood necromancer
Posts: 133
(2/12/02 11:16:42 pm)
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Re: So, when do we tell Edena that we exist?
Let's tell him if/when it becomes necessary or prudent to do so
(translation: I absolutely have no idea about when to tell him ).
Also, him worrying about Zelda might lead him to help other "weak"
nations, and that can't be a bad thing, even though I don't want him
to be worried.
And a big "hell, yeah!!!" to getting Forrester in here!
"I was known as the chief grave robber of my state." - not by me,
but easily could be.
Jand
Initiate
Posts: 5
(2/13/02 1:09:38 am)
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Re: So, when do we tell Edena that we exist?
We tell him when the time for concealment is gone.
When we strike as one for the first time.
I'm having a lot of fun imagining the shock our emergence as a
united force will have on the world... Let's make sure that they are
suprised. Remember people; the wrong word in the wrong place can
kill! Or ruin my fun, at least.
William Ronald
Acoylite
Posts: 33
(2/13/02 1:18:40 am)
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Re: So, when do we tell Edena that we exist?
Secrecy from our enemies and potential allies is one thing. However,
we do not want to risk loosing whatever good will we might have
with Edena.
Do you think we can convince Edena to keep us secret?
Jand
Initiate
Posts: 6
(2/13/02 1:27:41 am)
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Re: So, when do we tell Edena that we exist?
Right, go ahead an complicate things
It looks like Edena is interested in making things back like the old IR,
where secrecy wasn't so much an issue - I think - and that might be
a problem for us.
However, we do need his approval and frankly, to cheer him up. He
does seem a little beat down lately, and that's not good for the
thread, for us, and for him.
When you read my answers, be reminded that you do not ask
questions of elves, for they say both yes and no (Tolkien,
paraphrased). Remind you of anyone? (me?)
It may get annoying... I'll try and give straight answers when asked,
every once and a while .
William Ronald
Acoylite
Posts: 36
(2/13/02 2:04:34 am)
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Re: So, when do we tell Edena that we exist?
I see, just for the shock value.
Jand
Initiate
Posts: 9
(2/13/02 3:27:56 am)
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Very well, then
I'll give an answer, and expect you to debate it (which frees me from
having to do so).
Edena will have to know about our alliance on turn 1, in any case.
And if we need to keep Turrosh Mak secret on turn one, then it
doesn't matter whether we tell him now or later.
Of course, Edena doesn't seem to want people planning before the
thread... err, am I countering my own view? I'll stop now.
Bugbear
Goblin Clown
Posts: 329
(2/13/02 6:08:20 am)
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Re: Edena and Forester
Edena will keep the secret, unless he finds it more amussing to let it
slip, of course. But if no one else suspect us, I don't think he will.
he kept my secret plotting against Kalynar and Gnomeworks a secret
in the last thread.
As for Forester, More than welcome here
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Black Omega2000
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Posts: 1
(2/13/02 6:35:43 am)
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Re: Edena and Forester
I must be honest, I consider keeping secrets from enemies perfect
normal. Secrets from friends only when necessary. Secrets from the
guy pouring his sweat and blood into the game just seem like a bad
idea. If we can trust anyone, it's him.
ThayadonFasfoni
Initiate
Posts: 5
(2/13/02 9:18:28 am)
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Re: Edena and Forester
I agree. Edna should know about it before turn 1.
Bugbear
Goblin Clown
Posts: 332
(2/13/02 6:17:35 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
Besides, as the GM, he NEEDS to know about it so he can plan
accordingly.
I'm surprised no one's told him yet...
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Jand
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Posts: 15
(2/13/02 6:21:20 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
There we go. I'm all out of objections; my indesisive nature has been
convinced.
Let us reveal ourselves.
ThayadonFasfoni
Initiate
Posts: 9
(2/13/02 7:57:04 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
William Ronald, as starter of the Oerth Alliance I ask you to email
Edna. In the email could you put in a section saying that I'm giving
the secrets of the citadels to EVREONE in the Alliance?
William Ronald
Acoylite
Posts: 44
(2/13/02 8:10:49 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
William here.
I will do. I think Edena should know. It will make his life a lot easier.
Also, can everyone who posts here send a confirming e-mail to
Edena. He can be reached at
anora@mediaone.net.
I will try to compose a letter and post it here in an hour or less. Tell
me what you think.
Has anyone head from Alyx.
Also, Forrester will try to stop by.
Bugbear
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Posts: 337
(2/13/02 8:16:51 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
You may not be able to post, EZboards is doing an upgrade and the
board will be down for a couple of hours
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William Ronald
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Posts: 46
(2/13/02 8:19:30 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
It figures. How about I e-mail it to you and you share it with
everyone. Or should I. Contact me at
williamwronald@aol.com. Or
post after I do to let me know.
Bugbear
Goblin Clown
Posts: 339
(2/13/02 8:24:41 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
I can do that
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Jand
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Posts: 16
(2/13/02 8:24:58 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
Apologies, William;
I am Alyx, in the name is his PC. Ruler of Celestial Imperium,
Varnaith, the Lendores, etc etc.
Sorry about the confusion
William Ronald
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Posts: 49
(2/13/02 9:25:42 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
Here is my draft for the letter to Edena. I think all of us should
approve it before I send it out. (It is a little corny, I am afraid, but
this is just a quick draft.) Tell me how I should modify it:
A CONSPIRACY OF HOPE.
Edena, I have a confession to make. I have been keeping a big
secret, which I ask you to keep until my allies and I announce it.
Please sit down if you are not doing so.
THE OERTH ALLIANCE IS REAL AND READY TO MAKE A STAND.
After the old thread collapsed, I started communicating with
like-minded individuals. People who want their nations and peoples
in the thread to have self-determination and dignity. My efforts have
been more successful than I possibly imagined.
Here is a list of the members of the Oerth Alliance, an organization
devoted to the betterment of Oerth and its peoples, preservation of
land for the fey and the cultures of our world, magical and technical
progress, and increasing the rights, respect and opportunities for all
sentient beings.
Members list:
Alyx
Black Omega
Dagger
Darkness
Gnomeworks
Kaboom
Turrosh Mak
William Ronald
Zelda
Does the list surprise you? I never thought the little conspiracy I
proposed would be so successful.
We have worked hard to keep ourselves a secret. We have told
Forrester, as the UC of Toril is an ally of Gnomeworks. (He asked for
a brief summary of what is going on, as he is busy right now. I wrote
it as a fictional intelligence report to President Forrester of the UC of
Toril.) We are working to coordinate our strategy for the thread.
You have worked hard to try to make this thread a success. I
respect your efforts. When I filled in for you, I got a taste of what
you are doing. All of us appreciate the work that you have put into
this. As well as the work of Turrosh Mak and Maudlin.
So, what does this mean for you? We will have a joint command
structure. One member can speak for the alliance, just like Mr. Draco
and Serpenteye can speak for the Dark Union of Eastern Oerth. Our
points should be pulled together in the various arms races.
We have worked on strategies and treaties. We realized it would be
very easy for us to be picked off one by one. We realized that some
of the powers on the thread would only have us as slaves. We all
realized that we can try to have magic, the fey, and technology
along with more rights and prosperity for all. We realized that a
changing world often calls for changing perspectives. We were also
alarmed a bit by the great powers of evil growing so powerful.
Darkness and I face the threat of the Hellfurnaces Alliance of the
Forsaken One, Festy Dog, and Kalanyr. Separately, we would be
destroyed. Together, we have a hope for victory.
The Oerth Alliance is a military, political, and economic alliance. It
resembles in many respects what NATO would be if the political and
economic parts of the NATO countries were closely tied together. Our
member nations retain their sovereignty, but we stand as one for
each other and against our foes.
We represent many peoples, cultures and values. We have decided
to respect each other and learn from each other. On our own Earth,
there is value in all cultures. The same is likely to be true on Oerth.
(Okay, so there are major downsides in the illithid culture. But at
least they are consistent, organized, and place a high value on
knowledge. Now if they only respected the rights of individuals.)
Again, I apologize for springing this on you and keeping it a secret. I
am well aware of the behind the scenes maneuvers of some of the
other factions. We ask that you keep us a secret until we reveal
ourselves. We are also open to more members. (Generally, we don’t
want anyone getting squished by the big boys.) We are also willing
to respect the rights of others on the boards, including the right to
be left alone, if that is their choice.
Don’t be surprised if we use a few tricks or appear to squabble. We
are prepared to use cunning as well as force to protect our world
and ourselves. Indeed, you may find some of the tricks we plan to
pull quite amusing.
We realized that the World of Greyhawk is a pretty gritty setting. We
are prepared to be smart and tough. We hope to be at least as
successful as the Allies during World War II. Let those who think
that only the forces of evil are strong learn that good guys can be
far tougher than they imagined.
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Bugbear
Goblin Clown
Posts: 342
(2/13/02 10:06:41 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
Looks good to me
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Jand
Initiate
Posts: 17
(2/13/02 10:15:48 pm)
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Re: Edena and Forester
I like it, I like it...
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