Once you go C&C, you never go back

[S'mon]

For all those who think that people who support C&C always do it by bashing 3.x edition, it's because it seems that almost everybody who moves on to C&C has already tried 3.x edition, wanted to like it, and been frustrated by it. .

Yes - we play C&C because of problems we had with 3e. I like 3e a lot for about the first 6 levels, but after that it rapidly becomes too complex and the power gradient is different from what I want. C&C is a cleaned up version of AD&D incorporating streamlined d20/3e based mechanics and it does what I want.

 

[pogre]

Played a one shot when it came out. It was a good time, but I mostly cater to my players - they seem to be enjoying 3.5 immensely right now. There are so many systems I want to run right now, but due to time constraints I really have to stick to one. I could see running a C&C campaign for another group if I had time.

I really want to run a WFRP campaign, a 40KRPG campaign, a Savage Worlds campaign, and well, C&C is somewhere down on that list.

I think it accomplishes pretty well what it was designed to do.

 

[Frost]

Anyways, I think I’ve written quite enough.

Excellent points. A player "raised" on 3.X is likely to have a much different view of C&C than one who started with earlier editions.

 

[Eric Tolle]

Somewhat embarassingly, I must apologize for earlier praising Treebore's approach to promoting C&C. Apparently, he's been engaging in some unpalatable behaviors, which I was previously unaware of. This sudden revelation coupled with his posts on this page of the current thread seem to shed much light on his true demeanor. I want to make it clear that I endorse absolutely none of this.

I have to apologize myself. Treebore's trolling is his own problem, and I should know better then to let myself respond the way I did. I'm sure that C&C is a fine game on its own merits, and the vast majority of it's players are fine people. I have my own responsibility to raise or lower the tenor of conversation, and this time I failed, and let myself be drawn down to Treebore's level.

I'm sorry, and I'll try to be more positive in the future.

 

[Valiant]

Yes - we play C&C because of problems we had with 3e. I like 3e a lot for about the first 6 levels, but after that it rapidly becomes too complex and the power gradient is different from what I want. C&C is a cleaned up version of AD&D incorporating streamlined d20/3e based mechanics and it does what I want.

If your looking for 3E light, this is it (so a good game for 3Eers I suppose, not so for AD&D/OD&D fans). The artwork and editing are horrible, I wouldn't advise anyone looking for an old school game to get this system (stick with the originals or download OSRIC if you don't have them).

 

[Treebore]

Responding to deliberately inflammatory remarks does not make one a troll. The troll is the person who posts said remarks with the intent of provoking hostility, thus the term "trolling" (it comes from fishing terminoloy -- trolling is a method of slowly running a boat while trailing lures or bait).

Never mind, I PMed him instead.

 

[cougent]

I have not yet played C&C, but plan to try it out next year, just as I plan to try out another new game next summer.

 

[Psion]

Excellent points. A player "raised" on 3.X is likely to have a much different view of C&C than one who started with earlier editions.

FWIW, I started playing BECM and 1e, and I don't like C&C. I think what you are talking to here is more of a personal aesthetic than a trend.

 

[Doc_Klueless]

And for some informational posting. There will be Siege engine variant games coming down the pipe fairly soon. Star Siege, a sci fi game using the C&C core mechanic I believe will be one of the first offerings.

Now this I can get behind. While I didn't care for C&C, I did like some of the ideas contained in it (the SIEGE engine being number one). I think that folded into a game all its own, the SIEGE engine will shine.

 

[Kanegrundar]

Tried it, didn't like it, won't play it again. I started with 1E and still found C&C not to my liking. Oh well, to each their own.