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Special Conversion Thread: Frogs n' Toads


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Shade

Monster Junkie
Updated.

We still need...

Armor Class: x (+2 Dex, +x natural), touch x, flat-footed x
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. (x ft. with tongue)
Skills: 6 (Hide +8, Swim +8)
Feats: 2
Environment: Temperate marsh or aquatic(?)
Challenge Rating: x
Advancement: x
 

Mortis

First Post
Shade said:
Armor Class: x (+2 Dex, +x natural), touch x, flat-footed x
natural armor +4
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. (x ft. with tongue)
The original could reach 18 ft. so 15 or 20 ft?
Skills: 6 (Hide +8, Swim +8)
Hide 2, Survival 2, Swim 2?
Endurance, Weapon Focus (Tongue)
Environment: Temperate marsh or aquatic(?)
Just temperate marsh?
Challenge Rating: x
CR: 2
Advancement: x
4-6HD (Medium), 7-9HD (Large)

Regards
Mortis
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
Mortis said:
natural armor +4

That is the same as the killer frog, so should be fine.

Mortis said:
The original could reach 18 ft. so 15 or 20 ft?

The killer frog is 15 ft., so let's stick with that.

Mortis said:
Hide 2, Survival 2, Swim 2?

Killer frog: Hide +11, Jump +11, Listen +3, Move Silently +3, Spot +4, Swim +11
A killer frog has a +8 racial bonus on all Hide and Jump checks.

Monstrous Frog: Jump (special), Listen +4, Spot +4, Swim +8

Do we want to go with the racial bonus on Jump checks?

I'm leaning towards Hide 2, Listen 1, Move Silently 2, Spot 1

Mortis said:
Endurance, Weapon Focus (Tongue)

Killer Frog: Stealthy, Weapon Focus (claw)
Monstrous Frog: Weapon Finesse

Stealthy might be better than Endurance since they're ambush hunters. Since they have higher Str than Dex, Focus is the best choice.

Mortis said:
Just temperate marsh?

That'll work.

Mortis said:

Sounds good.

Mortis said:
4-6HD (Medium), 7-9HD (Large)

That seems fine.
 

Mortis

First Post
Shade said:
The killer frog is 15 ft., so let's stick with that.
Fine by me

Do we want to go with the racial bonus on Jump checks?
Well IMHO if toads get a racial bonus frogs certainly should.

I'm leaning towards Hide 2, Listen 1, Move Silently 2, Spot 1
Those work as well

Stealthy might be better than Endurance since they're ambush hunters. Since they have higher Str than Dex, Focus is the best choice.
Stealthy and Wpn Foc are fine by me.

Regards
Mortis
 


freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Shade said:
Updated in Homebrews. Do you think we should reassign the 2 ranks of Hide to Listen and Spot, since Hide is already fantastic?

Looking good. I don't have any problem with bumping up Listen & Spot.

We should probably add that the frog can only hold an opponent up to one size category smaller than it in its mouth.

Otherwise, this is pretty much looking done.
 

Shade

Monster Junkie
I went with "up to its size category" since it is Medium and the original text said it could hold an elf in its mouth. ;)
 


Shade

Monster Junkie
Ghoul Frog
CLIMATE/TERRAIN : Any fresh water
FREQUENCY: Very rare
ORGANIZATION: Pack
ACTIVITY CYCLE: Night
DIET: Insectivore
INTELLIGENCE: Animal
TREASURE: Nil
ALIGNMENT: Neutral
NO. APPEARING: 2-8
ARMOR CLASS: 8
MOVEMENT: 6, Swim 12
HIT DICE: 1+4
THAC0: 19
NO. OF ATTACKS: 1
DAMAGE/ATTACK: 1-2
SPECIAL ATTACKS: Blinding flash
SPECIAL DEFENSES: Poison
MAGIC RESISTANCE: Nil
SIZE: S (2'-3' long)
MORALE: Unsteady (6)
XP VALUE: 65

A ghoul frog appears to be some sort of zombified creature, but it is not. Its skin is translucent, revealing the skeleton, muscles, and internal organs. Large, black pupils give the illusion of hollow eye sockets, adding to the misconception.

Ghoul frogs are not undead and exhibit no ghoulish attributes: they cannot paralyze, nor do they feast on carrion. Nonetheless, the term "ghoul frog" has stuck, although they are sometimes called "zombie frogs" or "skull frogs."

Combat: The skin of a ghoul frog gives off a faint luminescence that attracts flying insects at night. Those that fly too close are attacked by the frog's tongue, which draws the prey into the frog's mouth. Ghoul frogs normally attack only insects, but they can bite for 1-3 hp damage if cornered (although they flee from most attackers larger than themselves). Like most anurans, they have many small teeth, but only on their upper jaw. These teeth are used primarily to hold struggling prey steady so they can be swallowed whole.

Once per turn, a ghoul frog can generate a flash of bright light from its luminescent skin, causing victims to save vs. paralyzation or be blinded for 1d4 rounds, during which time the
ghoul frog escapes. Ghoul frogs themselves are immune to the effects of such flashes. They are also somewhat resistant to the blinding effects of light and continual light spells; if either of these spells is cast directly on a ghoul frog's eyes, its attack rolls and saving throws are reduced by 2, not 4.

Habitat/Society: Ghoul frogs are often found in small packs, but they have no specific social structure. Staying in a group allows them to use their defensive flash more effectively, as
they can take turns "flashing" enemies. They are never found far from a source of fresh water like a lake, pond, or stream, where they lay their jellylike eggs.

Ghoul frog tadpoles are transparent as their adult forms, although they do not gain their bioluminescence until after completing the metamorphosis into full adults. Glowing tadpoles
would be too easily spotted by aquatic predators.

During daylight, ghoul frogs lie buried in the mud of the lake bottom, covering their skin and preventing its light from being spotted by predators. Only during the darkness of the night do they emerge and begin their hunt for insects.

Ecology: From a distance, the eerily-glowing ghoul frog is often mistaken for a will o’wisp. Those hoping to find a will o’wisp treasure trove are in for a disappointment, for ghoul
frogs accumulate no treasure.

Ghoul frog flesh is bitter and mildly poisonous. Those eating it must save vs. poison or be violently nauseous for 1d4 hours. During this time, the afflicted individuals suffer a -2 attack
penalty and a +2 AC penalty, as well as temporarily losing 24 points of Strength. Thus, ghoul frogs are not often hunted as prey. However, many predators try to stay close to a pack of ghoul frogs, waiting to pounce upon those creatures unfortunate enough to be blinded by the frogs’ defensive flash.

In addition, ghoul frog skin, once dried and powered, can be a useful ingredient in the manufacture of magical inks used to transcribe various spells. It is predominantly used for such light-based spells as faerie fire, dancing lights, and so on, but it can also be used for corpse visage and similar spells that deal with at least the appearance of being undead.
Ghoul frog blood is a vital ingredient in the manufacture of skeletal potions (see Dragon Magazine #198, “The False Undead”), which turn the imbiber’s skin and organs invisible
but leave his bones unaffected. In a pinch, it can also be used to create potions of invisibility, but such potions are usually inferior in terms of duration and often cause a flickering luminescence that negates the benefits of the invisibility.

From Dragon #247 (1998).
 

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