TORCHWOOD Finale - spoilers
Hawklord
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Shag said:I don't know anything about the BBC.
Will the change to BBC2 change the tone at all? I just wondered if BBC3 maybe was allowed the language and mild nudity and maybe BBC2 isn't?
Any UK members here?
I wouldn't worry about it - all the last series was shown on BBC2 uncut as far as I am aware.
BBC3 which comissioned the 1st series is a digital-only channel - BBC2 is a national broadcast channel so it's a promotion for Torchwood. It might mean they're going to spend more money on it with a bit of luck.
cheers
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death tribble
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I liked the touch at the end where it is Jack's inability to die that stops Abadon. But it is very different to Dr Who particularly in the context of sexual content.
And we know thanks to the penultimate episode a bit more about Jack.
I look forward to the new series.
And we know thanks to the penultimate episode a bit more about Jack.
I look forward to the new series.
orcmonk220
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Up until that final two episodes, I'd only seen the first and second ones, at which point it looks a bit dull. But, there was nothing on TV that night, and I though "What the hey, it's this or a DVD!"
It was very good. I liked the demon Abaddon's CGI work, and also the different ways the team was affected by the opening of the rift. Gwen's acting was particularly effective. Jack, the hero as ever, but there's one thing I never got throughout this whole series:
Where was the Doctor? Surely he should be dealing with this sort of thing?
It was very good. I liked the demon Abaddon's CGI work, and also the different ways the team was affected by the opening of the rift. Gwen's acting was particularly effective. Jack, the hero as ever, but there's one thing I never got throughout this whole series:
Where was the Doctor? Surely he should be dealing with this sort of thing?
WizarDru
Adventurer
orcmonk220 said:
To quote Tiny Toon Adventures:
"It's a great big Universe,
and we're all really puny,
we're just tiny little specks,
about the size of Mickey Rooney,
It's big and black and inky,
and we are small and dinky,
It's a big Universe and we're not."
Or, to put it another way...one point that the current Doctor Who series tries to drive home is that the Doctor is very reactive, not proactive. And the episode in which we see Torchwood first formed, "Tooth and Claw", it's pretty clear that Queen Elizabeth openly resents the Doctor's 'Johnny come lately' approach to galactic defense. Torchwood is a direct response to the fact that the Doctor isn't always there. Sure, he fixes what he sees when he sees it, but the fact is that the Doctor is usually late to the party when it comes to stopping things before they get to Extinction Level Events.
And when you look at it, most of what Torchwood dealt with this year didn't really demand his attention, so much.
Specifically:
1. Alien who kills for Sex
2. Crazed human psycho-killers
3. Several humans who abuses alien technology for personal benefit
4. Non-human earth 'aliens' who kill to protect their territory
5. A bunch of humans are displaced in time
2. Crazed human psycho-killers
3. Several humans who abuses alien technology for personal benefit
4. Non-human earth 'aliens' who kill to protect their territory
5. A bunch of humans are displaced in time
None of those are really anything other than small potatoes. So really, that leaves us with Abadon, the Rift itself,
one escaped convict alien and an escaped half-Cyberwoman.
sniffles
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And aside from the excellent reasons WizarDru gives, it's simply too expensive and difficult to have the Doctor show up on Torchwood all the time. The two series are being filmed back to back. Torchwood is also intended to be for a more mature audience than Doctor Who, and the producers don't want to bring the Doctor into that environment. So while there will very likely be a crossover of Captain Jack into Doctor Who, it's extremely unlikely that the Doctor will ever make an appearance on Torchwood (except for a certain "cameo" appearanceorcmonk220 said:Where was the Doctor? Surely he should be dealing with this sort of thing?
).
orcmonk220
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Good points. Merely seemed a little strange, though mostly I was referring to the Abaddon moment, but, then again, I can see why the want to keep him out of the action was there. Just a thought on the subject of Abaddon and the Doctor, and not meaning to derail the thread: Does the Doctor only have 12ish regenerations? I think I remember it referenced in one of the Peter Davidson ones, about a load of half-dead guys who wanted the Doctor to give them some of his regenerations. My memories a little hazy on the subject.
WizarDru
Adventurer
Mark Hope said:
What he said. The Master had used up all of his regenerations a while ago...and has stolen bodies and used other nefarious plots to achieve his survival. He has quite the knack for avoiding death that exceeds even the Doctor's own. Now, it should also be pointed out that I doubt that anyone in 1963 or whenever the doctor originally mentioned how many lives he had that the show would be a going concern forty years and nine actors later....so you have to give them some leeway.
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