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[UPDATED] WotC To Close Forums - Including D&D and M:tG (aka "Welcome New Forum Members to EN World!

WotC has announced that it will be closing its forums, which they refer to as a "former foundation of our community". The forums will close on October 29th. Of course, WotC's forum members are welcome here at EN World (although the expectations are a little different, so please do check the rules if you sign up!) The forums have been around for nearly two decades, in various incarnations, but WotC cites the rise of social media platforms as the reason for the closure.

WotC has announced that it will be closing its forums, which they refer to as a "former foundation of our community". The forums will close on October 29th. Of course, WotC's forum members are welcome here at EN World (although the expectations are a little different, so please do check the rules if you sign up!) The forums have been around for nearly two decades, in various incarnations, but WotC cites the rise of social media platforms as the reason for the closure.

Here's the announcement in full.

Choosing to retire a former foundation of our community was not an easy decision, but we feel that we must adjust our communications structure to reflect where conversations about Wizards of the Coast games are taking place.

Social media has changed significantly over the last ten years, and discussions about games aren't exclusive to company-hosted forums. The majority of community conversation takes place on third-party websites (such as Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, and many other fantastic community-run websites), and it is up to us to evolve alongside our players.

We encourage past and current users to retrieve any information you want to retain from the Community Forums for both Dungeons & Dragons and Magic: The Gathering. The shutdown will occur on October 29, 2015, at 10:00 a.m. PT. We want to provide enough time for our forum members to move their content, and we recognize that given our forum's vibrant user base and extensive history, this may take time. Any information still on the forums on the cut-off date will be deleted.

Thank you to all of our past and current forum users. You helped build our community into what it is now, and we look forward to continuing to interact with you on our many active social platforms.


WotC's Trevor Kidd had a little more to add.

"I could hop onto all the forums having this discussion or I can say it here and let it disseminate. I'm choosing the former. Moving away from running our own forums doesn't mean we think longer conversations or fan sites/forums aren't good or necessary. They are both good & necessary. From what I'm seeing, they flourish and you enjoy them more when they are run/managed by fans.

DnD & RPGs in general are all about story telling & talking with friends. It makes sense that we want to share those stories. So, it's vital that we have places to share those experiences & stories, like forums & fansites. But it's not vital that #dnd run those.

Closing our forums does not in any way lessen our interactions. We'll still be talking & lurking in your social media & fan sites. And the idea that forums are going away because dnd &/or magic are doing poorly - that's ludicrous! :p Both are doing very, very well.

We'll still be talking with you here, and elsewhere. Enjoy your new forum homes and don't forget to migrate your treasured content!

On the topic of losing forum content - it's tough, I agree. Once we knew we were going to close the forums, we also knew we weren't going to maintain the community site indefinitely, so we opted to pull the band-aid off quickly rather than let it linger."


Welcome to new members!

If you're a refugee from WotC's forums, you are very welcome here. You can register here at EN World by clicking here. You'll find out community busy and vibrant, and generally welcoming. We've been here over 15 years now, and there is tons of useful content here and lots of great resources which you're welcome to explore. These include:


(Announcement spotted initially by Critical Hits on the Twitters).
 

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Michael Long

First Post
I like this from that MtG forum: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" If not for the mention here no one would notice.
 

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Yunru

Banned
Banned
I like this from that MtG forum: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" If not for the mention here no one would notice.
If no-one is around the tree cannot fall. Or more to the point, it is stable, unfallen, falling, and already fallen, simultaneously.
 

Corpsetaker

First Post
Interesting, this is a Magic: The Gathering fan forum responses: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/...3170-wotc-is-closing-the-forums-on-their-site

The contrast between that thread and this is striking.

ENW: "Noooo! D&D is dead, the sky is falling!"

MTGS: "Huh. Surprised they didn't do it sooner."

They are two different games with probably two different sets of fans.

It's amazing that just a few short years ago, during 4th edition, the forums were beaming with activity. I don't blame this on a general forum decline with the intention of using social media instead. I would say that maybe 5th edition just wasn't well received overall.

Anyone remember the Forgotten Realms forums after 4th edition came out? It wasn't that forums were becoming outdated, it was because a majority just didn't like the new Realms.
 

Remathilis

Legend
They are two different games with probably two different sets of fans.

It's amazing that just a few short years ago, during 4th edition, the forums were beaming with activity. I don't blame this on a general forum decline with the intention of using social media instead. I would say that maybe 5th edition just wasn't well received overall.

Anyone remember the Forgotten Realms forums after 4th edition came out? It wasn't that forums were becoming outdated, it was because a majority just didn't like the new Realms.

See? D&D 5e has failed so badly, that it managed to kill the Magic forums along with the D&D forums!
 

guachi

Hero
WotC shuts down social media platform perfectly suited to discussing D&D to focus on awful social media platforms for discussing a game. All I get from WotC for this decision is "We are incompetent clowns. There is a reason our digital media offerings are terrible."

Oh, well. Welcome WotC forum refugees (Yunru, Bawylie, Iserith, Chris Carlson) I've been on discussion forums going all the way back to Usenet forums in the early '90s. The WotC forums got a little heated and repetitive at times. But I really don't understand the negative comments I've seen from people here regarding the forums. I've learned a heck of a lot from the members there - precisely because of the arguments. If the members didn't care so much about D&D I'd not have had such discussions to read. Even the rules minutae discussions were useful. It often resorted to someone asking Jeremy Crawford a question on Twitter just to get a response. So without the back and forth on the WotC boards the question never would have been asked and never would have been answered.
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
They are two different games with probably two different sets of fans.

It's amazing that just a few short years ago, during 4th edition, the forums were beaming with activity. I don't blame this on a general forum decline with the intention of using social media instead. I would say that maybe 5th edition just wasn't well received overall.

Anyone remember the Forgotten Realms forums after 4th edition came out? It wasn't that forums were becoming outdated, it was because a majority just didn't like the new Realms.

Yes it must be that 4e was well received and 5e and Magic the Gathering are not well received. That explains it.
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MrJeff

Explorer
If no-one is around the tree cannot fall. Or more to the point, it is stable, unfallen, falling, and already fallen, simultaneously.

That is much better way at trying to explain that concept then a Cat in a Box. At least for those who are more concerned about the theoretical cat then the theory.
 

Dark Kain

Explorer
That is much better way at trying to explain that concept then a Cat in a Box. At least for those who are more concerned about the theoretical cat then the theory.
Well the cat in the box example was originally supposed to confute said theory by sounding onbnoxious and paradoxical; it wasn't trying to explain it at all.

It just became popular and was eventually used for the opposite purpose in every work of fiction about quantum mechanics.
 

Wik

First Post
You could be right.

Edit: Just had a thought. Maybe the Wizards forums actually affected the game overall more so than the MtG boards so they figured removing the boards wouldn't hurt MtG in the slightest while helping D&D.

I'll agree with you there. Think of it this way - you're new to D&D or MtG. You go to the "official" fan site, start scrolling through the forums... and find a huge list of complaints and negativity. I know I've seen it in both D&D and mtg threads... not all of them, but certainly a few!

WOTC wants to control fan perception of their game. Open forum discussions that are loosely moderated are available everywhere these days. Why should they spend money maintaining such a discussion that could very possibly be turning fans away from their own game?

This is, for what it's worth, a reason that I don't really play MTG. The fans I've met are often quite negative, and it just brings me down. :p
 


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