D&D 5E When do you think the revised fighter will be released?

[CapnZapp]

The sense that they are weak is illusory because they don't have nova capabilities. Much of the nova damage is often wasted though and the other classes can't do it often.

Oh Battlemasters can nova alright...

You just need to play with more minmax gamers



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[CapnZapp]

What the others said. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up seeing an expansion of the maneuver list — similar to how the Warlockks invocations have been looked at in UA — over time (the list of EK spells expanding over time as the Wizard spell list grows larger) and more new feats that the Fighter’s list of ASIs can better take advantage of.

That's entirely possible.

But now we're talking expansion, not revision

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[Angerguy]

if you needs to be told why the fighter is weak then you must play some pretty shallow games.

 

[CapnZapp]

As people have noted, the Fighter isn't "weak" by most definitions. What are the issues that you were having with it?

Often when people are finding Fighters weak, it turns out that their group's playstyle involves only a few, big fights a day. That sequence is going to push the power of the long-rest classes like most spellcasters up, and push the short-rest-based classes like Fighter down.

In the single-digit levels, Fighters easily hold their own compared to casters (my personal experience can only attest to Warlocks, Bards, Clerics but I would be surprised if this was different with Wizards and Druids).

In fact, just recently our Wizard died and was replaced by a Barbarian. At level 4 that's a huge difference. Long term, of course, it might not be so good...

And I have rather powergaming players.

In short, the old D&D adage is still true. Wizards need their stupid meatshield friends just as much as always... ☺



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[Gardens & Goblins]

FEEDING - Just say 'NO!'

 

[Bitbrain]

Reply to OP.

Fighters don't need a revision.
The guy playing as an Eldritch Knight in the main DM's campaign might not have hit the hardest (he never took any of the SCAG cantrips), but he was practically unhittable . . . To the point where he eventually stopped wearing armor because he wanted a challenge.
When the DM openly declares to the party that he's not even gonna try to take a swipe at your character except on a natural 20 because that's the only time he'll be able to land a hit on you, you know you've got a powerful character.

 

[Cap'n Kobold]

if you needs to be told why the fighter is weak then you must play some pretty shallow games.

We're all ears to hear why your opinions are the only correct ones even in the face of conflicting evidence.

 

[Stalker0]

I think the Champion Fighter might be weak but the Battlemaster looks solid. That said, I do think the paladin is really really good in comparison. They just have the whole package, good offense, good defense, great saves, charisma for roleplaying, can heal themselves well, have their own horse whenever they need it. The paladin is a much more self-sufficient class than the fighter.

 

[Caliban]

if you needs to be told why the fighter is weak then you must play some pretty shallow games.

*need

Plus, obvious troll is obvious.

 

[MechaTarrasque]

The last two Septembers have had a "revised ranger", and it doesn't look like the "official" version will come out until sometime after XGtE, so in the best case scenario, in which the December UA is "we have added the revised ranger to the basic rules", that would mean "revising" took a couple of years. So even if the fighter is up for revision (which is a big if), there is no reason to believe an "official" revised fighter would be available before 2020.