Dire Lemming
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How soon after this issue started did he issue his "Ultimatum"? It might just be a momentary lapse in judgment that he'll regret later. He does sound like a hothead.
Elf Witch said:His total roll was an 18. I added a +2 for him being a non human to the modifiers for the cleric of St Cuthbert. I also added a +2 to both clerics because of the situation and the bard not being known to these two people.
Elf Witch said:I have not nerfed the bard. Unless of course you consider applying modifiers to situations to be nerfing.
Oh, nonsense. Hell, everyone gets penalties now and then! Should Elf Witch make sure that characters are only rolling dice in optimal situations where no one will ever get penalized? The penalties were entirely appropriate - presumably, the player knew about the prejudices against his race. Plus, he just didn't roll as well. Maybe he needs to suck it up and not act like a pouty little kid because someone did something better than he did. Plus, he's the one who initially stopped the fight between the opposing clerics in the first place WITH his diplomacy - it sounds like he's pouting because someone else was able to do something in "his" scene. Screw that - if I had an adult who complained for TWO FREAKIN' HOURS about that, I'd tell him to stop being a dick and cool it if he was a good friend. If he wasn't a good friend, I'd just to tell him to get the hell outta the game.LostSoul said:Anyways, you're penalizing the only thing he's good at (he's playing a Bard, after all). I imagine that he wants to come to the game to play the face. He can't do that with all the modifiers thrown against him. Maybe he just needs to min-max more, I don't know. But I don't see why I would drive for a half-hour, spend money, waste time, and not get to do what I want.
I don't think the issue lies only with the player. I think it's a group issue. You have to sit down and figure out why you are role-playing. What brings you all to the table?
If, after answering this question as a group, you realize that you are doing something - like, oh, I don't know, adding modifiers - that goes directly against the "fun" that you have, why are you doing it?
And yeah, maybe some people will have to leave because what's fun for them isn't fun for anyone else.
LostSoul said:What's the Bard's modifier? What did he roll on the die, a 3?
Well, it depends. Does the bard get bonuses for the situation - a +2, say, because the Clerics are both good guys and know each other and wouldn't normally fight and etc.
Anyways, you're penalizing the only thing he's good at (he's playing a Bard, after all). I imagine that he wants to come to the game to play the face. He can't do that with all the modifiers thrown against him. Maybe he just needs to min-max more, I don't know. But I don't see why I would drive for a half-hour, spend money, waste time, and not get to do what I want.
I don't think the issue lies only with the player. I think it's a group issue. You have to sit down and figure out why you are role-playing. What brings you all to the table?
If, after answering this question as a group, you realize that you are doing something - like, oh, I don't know, adding modifiers - that goes directly against the "fun" that you have, why are you doing it?
And yeah, maybe some people will have to leave because what's fun for them isn't fun for anyone else.
Tewligan said:Oh, nonsense. Hell, everyone gets penalties now and then!
Elf Witch said:He has five ranks in diplomacy plus +4 for stat and +2 bonus because he has five ranks in bluff. He rolled a 7. He has not put ranks in diploamcy every level the cleric who also has the same chr has put levels in it and he does not have any ranks in bluff.
Elf Witch said:The clerics involved may be good guys but they don't like each other there is a lot of tension between the two churches. The clerics of St Cuthbert are fantatics who havea strong belief in punishing wrong doers. In my world they make up the judges and in a lot of areas they are the police force.
The followers of Pelor are ape worshipers?Elf Witch said:Someone set fire to the temple of Pelor killing almost every cleric there and severly injuring the primate of the temple.