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Mamacat's helpful hints for gaming with couples with or without kids

Mamacat

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Sooooo....I've been reading a bit here and there about gaming groups breaking up for different reasons, and thought I'd post a few hints about gaming with couples (and kids always add to the mix, don't they? :p ).

1. Big one here, and a pet peeve of mine - if you need to apologize, do so to the person you need to, NOT their partner. Apologizing to my husband after fighting with me just leaves me more pissed. If you're big enough to apologize, do it to the right person.

2. If you are going to game with folks who have kids, be prepared to watch your stuff. I have a two year old, who tries to steal dice, pencils, etc. And she also dives into snacks if she can get to them (a two year old on cheetos is not pretty, for anyone :lol:).

3. Unless a couple has dependable sitters (or the money to hire them), you will probably end up gaming at the house of those with kids. Please resist playing with the toys strewn all over (at least too much), and be prepared for several breaks in the action for diaper changes, drinks of water, etc.

4. NEVER comment on her weight. 'nuff said. ;)

5. Invest in jumbo dice if gaming around any child under 5. If you don't have the money, ask the parents to provide a set. To protect their child, they will probably spring for a "house set".

6. Respect the fact that male gamers usually want their girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/etc to at least TRY playing, and be patient. And, hey, if it doesn't work out, maybe the SO would be willing to come and watch a movie while you guys play. But RESPECT that relationship, or you'll alienate both of them.

7. NEVER discipline a child that isn't yours physically. It's OK to say, "Hey, that's mine, please give it back.", and then get your stuff back. But if the kid needs a spanking, swat on the butt, or time out, let the parents do it. The parents should be quick to take care of their children, as well. If a child is in your way, either ask the parents to move the child, or ask them if you can do so (my group knows to gently move my daughter by putting a hand in the small of her back, and nudging her. She moves on her own.).

8. Hint for parents - the other gamers do NOT want to hear about potty training, etc. Save that for Gramma. Unless, of course, they ASK. Also, other gamers do not necessarily want to hold your baby.

9. NEVER insult a parent in an argument by saying, "You're a bad mother!" (or father, or whatever). Don't cross that line. Once you say that, it's over. Trust me, I know - it happened to me. And very rarely can you take that back. If they are bad parents, call Family Services - and why are you gaming with people like that, anyway?

10. The children will always come first. Don't ever think different. Much as the parents like you, the group, the game - Their kids are their kids. If a child has a nightmare, and needs to cuddle and have a story, the game will either have to wait, or you guys will have to forge ahead without that player. And, of course, there will be some cancelled games from time to time.

11. Please learn the girlfriend/wife/child(rens) names! Write them on your character sheet if you need to! It's much nicer to refer to someone by name rather than a pronoun. :cool:

12. Try to be respectful of the parents and keep the language at least PG rated when the kids are around.

Those are all I can think of right now - anyone want to add anything?:D
 
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Great advice. As a parent, husband, and gamer I agree to all of that.

One other thing, try to be respectful of the parents and keep the language at least PG rated when the kids are around.
 

8. Hint for parents - the other gamers do NOT want to hear about potty training, etc. Save that for Gramma. Unless, of course, they ASK. Also, other gamers do not necessarily want to hold your baby.


10. The children will always come first. Don't ever think different. Much as the parents like you, the group, the game - Their kids are their kids. If a child has a nightmare, and needs to cuddle and have a story, the game will either have to wait, or you guys will have to forge ahead without that player. And, of course, there will be some cancelled games from time to time.


Those are all I can think of right now - anyone want to add anything?:D

As a gamer who is married (wife likes to play as well) and a Dad (also of a 2 year old)

All of your points are great let me twist on and comment on another

#8 Inverse, if you are single and playing with 2 or more couples (or parents) realize that parents will ask and talk about potty training and ABCs. Try to bear it with good humor, and the game will get back on track.

#10 kids get sick, and they can get sick very quickly. There is no way to avoid late cancelations from time to time. They are not meaning to be rude, but it is just a fact of parenting.

RK
 

One addition - if you have older kids, they'll want to play. If you're like us, you'll let them some of the time. It's a great experience for the kids. It also changes the dynamics at the table. My kids are 15 and 12, and they expect different things out of a game session than my 30-something adult friends do. So we run games that the kids have characters in, and we run games that the kids don't get to join. Ideally, we'll be running games just for the kids and their friends, which will reduce their desire to play in the adult games, perhaps to the relief of our childless friends.
 


So each of these is a lesson learned, I take it. Which to me is really, really scary that #7 and #9 are on that list. The mind boggles.

Good information here, though!
 

Good advice all around.

Playing in a house with kids isn't all hardship and watching your dice though. There are advantages to be had as well! My kids are older now, so most of these suggestions don't apply to toddlers and other kids likely to pop dice into their mouths.

1) Older kids like listening in on the sessions sometimes. Make use of this to have them fetch beverages for you, or throw food wrappers in the trash. More time at the table for all!

2) Kids are small and nimble. Have them pick up dice you dropped under the table.

3) Kids of gamers often have lots of fun toys such as castles, siege towers, dragons, knights on horseback, wizards, etc. (consider who bought the toys for them). Use these for additional minis and props in your games. Kids are a great excuse to buy cool toys for yourself them.

4) Kids are creative. They can sometimes suggest crazy ideas that just might work to solve a problem your characters are having in-game. Or maybe not so much - but you might have fun listening to their ideas.

5) Kids can play too! When they are old enough and if your friends are tolerant of children have your kids join a game. We're starting one that deliberately excludes the childless couple who doesn't want to put up with my younger son (age 10), but includes another friend who loves kids. The family that plays together stays together. :D
 

So each of these is a lesson learned, I take it. Which to me is really, really scary that #7 and #9 are on that list. The mind boggles.
You'd be amazed at how many childless people feel that they understand parenting and can judge whether someone is a good parent or not. Parents hear a lot of well-meaning but naive advice from such people, and have learned to utterly disregard it. It's like going through boot camp - until you have done it yourself, you won't have the respect of those who are struggling through it. Parenting is trial by fire, but with the best reward imaginable.
 

Nice! Heartily agreed!

Our group consists of me (the DM), my wife, a friend and his wife, and another friend who isn't married (but lives with his girlfriend). Me and my wife have a 4-year-old, while the other coupld have a 7-year-old and a 2-year-old. Since we all know each other for quite some time (the unmarried dude is the newcomer, and I've known him for 3 years; the others we go back 15 years), watching the kids is a bit communal.
 

I wrote a lot of responses, but I'd mainly like to pop in and say that your group appears to have too much arguing in it.

If you're having arguments that necessitate apologies frequently with your gamers, find new gamers. If you can't find new gamers, stop playing until you can.

Save the drama.

Also, people without children are not necessarily 100% naive, and it's fairly silly and very arrogant to blow off their advice completely. While they have not lost sleep for years at a time like you have, and they haven't experienced the love a parent has for a child firsthand, they may have worked at a day care, read something you haven't... or more poignantly, they may be watching you screw up in a way you aren't willing to admit.

Of course, if they're continually giving you unsolicited advice that is crap, telling them to stuff it is key!
 

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