Kalamar - first published 4e setting?!?

[hong]

Not everyone thinks the names are stupid. That is due to different languages, different expectations, more tolerance for foreign cultures, and less ego.

So. Point me to all those ppl complaining about the syllables in Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

And no matter how often you say it: Something isn't become stupid just because you say so.

Hint: something indeed doesn't become stupid just because I say so.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Of course, I was perfectly willing to leave it at "if enough people think it's stupid, then it's stupid".

Since I am pretty sure that's also where you came down on Golden Wyvern Adept, I'm willing to take you at your word on that.

 

[hong]

Since I am pretty sure that's also where you came down on Golden Wyvern Adept, I'm willing to take you at your word on that.

Of course, that's also where I came down on Wyvern Tail Cut Dragon Tail Strike.

 

[Desdichado]

To be precise, by choosing rules that make for good syllables, you can reduce the number of people who think the syllables are stupid to below the threshold at which they become stupid. This is because the underlying attraction of the Kalamar naming scheme, as far as can be told by those who have posted here, is that it follows a consistent underlying set of rules. The outcome of those rules is another thing entirely, and hence there can be good rules (those which produce results that are not stupid sounding) and not-so-good rules (those which produce results that are stupid sounding).

Is this clear?

*sigh* It was clear three pages ago. Is there some reason you insist and making sure Fenes understands this concept or any of the other concepts you've posted in regards to naming conventions with Kalamar? Clearly he's not going to, so you're just wasting your time.

 

[Fenes]

So. Point me to all those ppl complaining about the syllables in Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

What for?

Hint: something indeed doesn't become stupid just because I say so.

Why claim it then by stating something is stupid, and not add "in my opinion"?

 

[Fenes]

*sigh* It was clear three pages ago. Is there some reason you insist and making sure Fenes understands this concept or any of the other concepts you've posted in regards to naming conventions with Kalamar? Clearly he's not going to, so you're just wasting your time.

I understand him perfectly fine. I do disagree with his opinion that the results of said naming rules are stupid.

 

[hong]

What for?

To defend against the thesis that although taste may be a subjective thing and there is no universally-agreed scale by which to measure the acceptability or otherwise of a naming scheme, some collections of syllables can indeed be stupider than others.

As might have been said before.

Why claim it then by stating something is stupid, and not add "in my opinion"?

It should be self-evident that a statement that something is/isn't stupid is a statement of subjective opinion, is it not?

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Of course, that's also where I came down on Wyvern Tail Cut Dragon Tail Strike.

Curiously enough, Dragon's Tail Cut was a case of a designer not thinking hard enough about fantasy.

 

[Fenes]

To defend against the thesis that although taste may be a subjective thing and there is no universally-agreed scale by which to measure the acceptability or otherwise of a naming scheme, some collections of syllables can indeed be stupider than others.

As might have been said before.

And was answered before. I disagree. And so does anyone who has a hobby that the majority of the people not into the hobby considers stupid.

It should be self-evident that a statement that something is/isn't stupid is a statement of subjective opinion, is it not?

No. There is a big difference between stating something as a fact and stating something as an opinion.

 

[Amphimir Míriel]

Harrumph! Going back into topic...

I'm not interested in a Palladium board war. I was just pointing out that Palladium sued WotC for referencing their system and providing a little conversion material, and K&Co is putting D&D's name on the cover of their book and using game mechanics. If Palladium was able to maintain a suit for a long enough period of time to nearly ruin WotC, then WotC could probably do the same to K&CO much more easily. I'm just suggesting that they be careful, because the 800-lb. gorilla doesn't necessarily have to win a court case in order to achieve their objective.

This puts WotC in a very difficult position. It can indeed sue Kenzer and drag the lawsuit long enough to ruin them... However this would cause a big backlash against WotC (can you say "Streisand Effect"?)