Wiki challenge!

[Kristian Serrano]

Should we have a Wiki Meta forum for technical wiki questions and concerns?

It also might be worth creating a new forum for the wiki in general rather than having one thread for everything or having specific wiki conversations lost in the General RPG Discussion shuffle.

At the very least, we should have a subforum in each of the respective edition forums.

 

[smootrk]

Success!

 

[Merkuri]

Should we have a Wiki Meta forum for technical wiki questions and concerns?

It also might be worth creating a new forum for the wiki in general rather than having one thread for everything or having specific wiki conversations lost in the General RPG Discussion shuffle.

At the very least, we should have a subforum in each of the respective edition forums.

I suggested last week that we either create a new forum specifically for the wiki or that we add a "Wiki" prefix to the Meta forum so that people can post about the wiki in there. I don't think anything has been done about it yet, though. For now I've been making new threads in Meta, mentioning "wiki" in the subject and tagging it with "wiki" as well.

 

[roguerouge]

I posted an urban encounter: fighting a fire in a block of buildings: http://www.enworld.org/wiki/index.php/Fire!

 

[Merkuri]

Just to let you guys know, I've created a template that you can stick in the top of your OGC pages that'll automatically create your first line and will add a box obviously marking the page as open gaming content. It will also automatically add the category "OGC" to the page.

To insert it, add something like this to the top of the page:

{{OGLHeader
|name=Dire Bear
|type=a monster
|product=The Book of D&D Monsters
|publisher=Random Publisher Inc
}}

If you just want the box and the category (not the first line) you can just add {{OGLBox}}.

You can see an example of the header template it on my user page.

 

[Big Mac]

But would having OGC tagged content on the Wiki imply the Wiki itself comes with a OGL (or rather the site)? I think so, and I suppose there's no underlying OGL actually. I don't even know if it's possible for an internet site.

So I think no content on the Wiki should be tagged as OGC, even if it has been copied from already published OGC (such as the dragon stats mentioned above), as it would not be actually content shared under an OGL.

You can't legally reuse OGC (in large quantities) unless you do it under the OGL. Without the OGL you fall back on fair use, which includes extracts. I would say that using the OGC from an entire book would constitute more than an extract and would leave ENWorld open to being done for copyright infringement.

I think that there are two ways to handle this. Either

• Put a local copy of the OGL on every page of the Wiki (with some sort of template that adds the section 15 to the ENWorld OGL or
• Have one big OGL for the entire website, that covers every single bit of OGC.

The second option is likely to create an uber-OGL that ends up citing everything ever made and being about 3,000 lines long!

 

[Kristian Serrano]

I added the bounty hunter and some related feats from Keith Baker's Crime and Punishment.

On a side note, the OGL box is messing things up a bit. I think you need to work on some CSS with it.

 

[Merkuri]

On a side note, the OGL box is messing things up a bit. I think you need to work on some CSS with it.

I took a look at the Bounty Hunter page and I think I see what you were talking about. It looks like the main table was causing the problem for some reason, not the OGL Box. I added some margins to the main table to make it look better (at least on Firefox).

 

[Kristian Serrano]

I took a look at the Bounty Hunter page and I think I see what you were talking about. It looks like the main table was causing the problem for some reason, not the OGL Box. I added some margins to the main table to make it look better (at least on Firefox).

That looks better, thanks. I might just move the progression table to the bottom of the page anyway.

Edit: I still think the issue is with the OGL box rather than the progression table as the progression table is placed before the Abilities section in the markup, but the Abilities Section was starting above the progression table in the browser.

 

[Kristian Serrano]

Out of curiosity, is anyone willing to put in Torn Asunder's content? It's 100% OGL, but compiles a lot of content from other sources.