New name for "gish"? (forked from Character Concepts: Gish and Teleporter Mage)

[Nifft]

Oh yeah. That's what it is.

Only, not it isn't.

I find your alternative explanation somewhat lacking.

-- N

 

[FallenTabris]

I am supportive of using the name gish. It has a long 2nd edition history as it is in reference to githyanki being the penultimate fighter-mages. I think it should be used in hobby for trying to reach that balance of a spell caster that can also excell in melee. Gish isn't optimization elitist because it can be used by those trying to create said spell spitting sword swinger for narrative reasons. And it is no more counter intuitive to understand than the words eladrin or tiefling. I think people are grasping for reasons for gish being a bad term to adopt when actually their issue is the sound of the word. I'm thinking some people would take issue with their 'kewl' sword and spell character being referenced with that 'cutesy, squishy word'.

 

[Psion]

I am supportive of using the name gish. It has a long 2nd edition history as it is in reference to githyanki being the penultimate fighter-mages.

So, who are the ultimate?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I find your alternative explanation somewhat lacking.

Re-read the thread, then.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

And it is no more counter intuitive to understand than the words eladrin or tiefling.

Two stupid names don't make a right.

I think people are grasping for reasons for gish being a bad term to adopt when actually their issue is the sound of the word.

No, people have been quite clear with their perfectly reasonable reasons to dislike it.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

So, who are the ultimate?

Fighter/Magic-User.

It's got even MORE history on its side, and has the virtue of being understandable by everyone.

 

[Merlin the Tuna]

Fighter/Magic-User.

It's got even MORE history on its side, and has the virtue of being understandable by everyone.

Again, I'm not going to throw my support behind a compound word that needs a slash and a hyphen to incorporate two terrible class names.

I'd rather become a Golden Wyvern Adept and slay Thundertusk Wildboars or something.

 

[Nifft]

Re-read the thread, then.

That's not obnoxiously condescending or anything, so sure, I'll go do that.

Otherwise, the "history" is only that a handful of hardcore optimization nerds have been using it

Still seems pretty clear where your hate comes from.

Is it because you feel gnomes didn't get enough optimization attention?

-- N

 

[1Mac]

I didn't start playing role-playing games until just after 3.5 rolled out. I'm not someone for whom "gish" has a storied meaning from my long involvement in the game. Yet "gish" suits me just fine.

If I play a two-blade ranger, should I say, "I'm playing a Drizzt"?

If he's also moody, and a good member of a usually evil race, then why not? I don't think anyone sits down and says "I'm going to take some abstruse bit of gaming lore and try to turn it into somewhat mainstream jargon." These things evolve more naturally than that.

 

[Wormwood]

Of my two gaming groups, I'm the only one who spends a lot of time on RPG boards---and I've been subtly insinuating the term 'gish' into our gaming parlance over the past 6 or so months.

It's now effectively standard.