PHBII Classes Confirmed

[Rechan]

What about the thread on Mearls' WOTC blog where he spoils the first initials of the PHB2 classes like so...

B - Barbarian - Primal Defender

Eh? We have the playtest for the barbarian. He's a striker.

Remember that one of the classes in Divine Power could slip in via the Eberron Player's Guide, too (ala Sword Mage).

EPG will have the Artificer in it. I mean, the artificer is Eberron's. Whether it gets another class or not, depends.

I would like to see a Silver Flame pact for warlocks.

 

[crash_beedo]

Eh? We have the playtest for the barbarian. He's a striker.

DOH! My bad, I pasted from someone's post and clearly missed that. Yep, Warden is likely the Primal Defender.

I'm guessing if Invoker / Avenger are the two newbies, we'll see Theurge powers in the Invoker class (assuming Divine Controller) and Avenger will be an as yet unseen Divine Striker.

 

[Andor]

You're right. Don't forget to mention how "Invoker" is now confirmed to be a Divine class and "Evocations" are confirmed to be what Primal powers are called.

So soon we will have:
Invokers - Divine summoners calling up rosy bottomed cherubs.
Evokers - Arcane controllers who vaporize minions. Class feature Auto hitting magic missile.
Revokers - Bureaucratic controllers who deny enemies permisson to use their powers.
Provokers - Martial Defenders who taunt enemies into attacking them. Class feature 'Your mamma'.

 

[doctorhook]

Given that a) support for said classes was going to be in Divine Power as of the time the Summer 2009 catalog went to press,
b) we know that new divine classes are going to be introduced in PH2,
c) there is no other product that will introduce new divine classes (the same catalog says that the Eberron Player's Guide will introduce one new class, the artificer)

I'd say that it would require some last-minute changes for these two not to be considered 'confirmed'.

Now, the shaman I'd only put at 'highly probable' at this point.

I think the only reason to think of the Shaman as anything but at least as confirmed as you feel Avenger and Invoker are is that we haven't heard anything about it for a while now. That said, I also think they'll all be there.

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EPG will have the Artificer in it. I mean, the artificer is Eberron's. Whether it gets another class or not, depends.

I would like to see a Silver Flame pact for warlocks.

Why should Warlocks get a new build in every book? There ought to be a Silver Flame-themed Paragon Path for Warlocks, but a pact would be unnecessary, I think.

Now, a longbow-themed Silver Flame Cleric or Invoker build... that would rock!

 

[doctorhook]

Evokers - Arcane controllers who vaporize minions. ...

You have just described my party's current Wizard.

 

[Rechan]

Why should Warlocks get a new build in every book?

Oh, not every book. I even think the Darkness pact warlock was unnecessary. It's just that a Silver Flame warlock has been a fan favorite (been created several times over on the WotC boards), and it's a nice "Good" Warlock compared to the others.

Don't disagree about an Invoker method.

 

[CleverNickName]

Great. As if 4e needed another WAR named class. Can we build an entire party of WARxxxx classes now?

Nope...not yet. You will have to wait for the PHBIII, which is rumored to contain the following classes:

Warder
Warner
Warbler
Wardancer
Warrant Officer
Warmonger
Warrantor
Warrener
Warehouseman
War Bride
War Criminal
War Widow
Ward-heeler

It's only a rumor...but remember, you heard it here first.

Frankly, I'm excited at the prospect of playing a heroic rabbit-farmer...

 

[Mercurius]

Maybe Theurge was renamed Invoker, and I-as-Inquisitor was renamed (the more diplomatic) Avenger. Thus an Avenger = angry and extra-zealous paladin.

Personally I think these look great.

 

[Henry]

I just find it amusing that, after all the "4E Avenger" namecalling over on the WotC Forums, that there will now be, in fact, 4E Avengers.

 

[doctorhook]

Maybe Theurge was renamed Invoker, and I-as-Inquisitor was renamed (the more diplomatic) Avenger. Thus an Avenger = angry and extra-zealous paladin.

Personally I think these look great.

I think the big question on everybody's mind is, "What the hell is the 'Avenger', exactly? What will this class do that other classes don't?" We're all really curious; I know I am, because I'm genuinely not sure what it's about.

Is it a Paladin-lite? Is it a Rogue who prays before assassinating someone? Is it a "holy warlock"-type character, blasting foes with superpowered godlasers? "Divine" and "Striker" almost seem like an unnatural combination at times.

It's not that I doubt WotC can do it, I just find myself really unsure about what exactly the Avenger must does.

I just find it amusing that, after all the "4E Avenger" namecalling over on the WotC Forums, that there will now be, in fact, 4E Avengers.

lol When you put it like that, Henry, it makes it hard for me not to like it! ...Perhaps that was the inspiration?