PHBII Classes Confirmed

[Sir Brennen]

We were told there would be 3 brand new classes, not done before. I'm pretty sure that's going to be the Warden/Avenger/Invoker. (Although I didn't think we've seen a Shaman before, aside from the spirit shaman...).

If "not done before" means in any edition, then it's not the Shaman, as I have a 2nd edition TSR sourcebook for the class.

 

[Remathilis]

Yes, the Shaman is confirmed (infact confirmed as the Primal Leader).

Also, we've heard stuff from various podcasts (The tome, specifically) that there would be a Divine Controller, and he'd be doing more "Flame-Strikey" stuff. (Invoke and Evoke aren't that far off. And Invoking the name of something or other sounds fairly smitey/bringing down a god's wrath, etc).

We were told there would be 3 brand new classes, not done before. I'm pretty sure that's going to be the Warden/Avenger/Invoker. (Although I didn't think we've seen a Shaman before, aside from the spirit shaman...).

There was also an avenger class in 2e; In Domains of Dread they introduced four new classes (avenger, gypsy, arcanist, anchorite) but the avenger was pretty much a fighter with higher ability score requirements, a chaotic alignment, and bonuses for having a "grudge" against a particular foe (such as the six-fingered man who killed your father) and foes similar to him (other six fingered men?).

Fun, but pretty much a fighter kit elevated to full-class status.

 

[Lizard]

Foo. What happened to "I Is For Illusionist"?

 

[Jack99]

Foo. What happened to "I Is For Illusionist"?

If you haven't already, may I recommend at least checking out the Advanced Player's Guide and the Spellbinder. It might not be able to have the official name, but it looks great.

 

[Shroomy]

I thought that rumor had that the Illusionist class would be a Shadow power source class.

 

[Shroomy]

I agree that it provides more support for the previously-existing speculation as to what classes are in the PHBII. But when I came to the thread, I expected something that actually confirmed it, something from WotC itself, because the thread title claimed it was confirmed.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be misleading, but I thought that their appearance in the Summer Catalog and in the DDI Generator was a clincher. I don't see any other books were a new class would come from, at least those two new classes.

 

[Fifth Element]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be misleading, but I thought that their appearance in the Summer Catalog and in the DDI Generator was a clincher. I don't see any other books were a new class would come from, at least those two new classes.

The point is, we can't be sure the classes in the Generator screenshots actually made it into the books. Who knows what could have changed since then.

 

[M.L. Martin]

The point is, we can't be sure the classes in the Generator screenshots actually made it into the books. Who knows what could have changed since then.

Given that a) support for said classes was going to be in Divine Power as of the time the Summer 2009 catalog went to press,
b) we know that new divine classes are going to be introduced in PH2,
c) there is no other product that will introduce new divine classes (the same catalog says that the Eberron Player's Guide will introduce one new class, the artificer)

I'd say that it would require some last-minute changes for these two not to be considered 'confirmed'.

Now, the shaman I'd only put at 'highly probable' at this point.

 

[crash_beedo]

What about the thread on Mearls' WOTC blog where he spoils the first initials of the PHB2 classes like so...

B - Barbarian - Primal Defender
B - Bard - Arcane Leader
D - Druid - Primal Striker
I - ?
S - Sorcerer - Arcane Controller
S - Shaman
T - ?
W - Warden

I thought for sure the T would be Theurge (divine controller) - and we've seen plenty of Theurge powers in the H-series of modules - especially amongst the Duergar. I suppose Theurge could have been renamed to something else.

"I" could be the Invoker.

Remember that one of the classes in Divine Power could slip in via the Eberron Player's Guide, too (ala Sword Mage).

 

[Shroomy]

What about the thread on Mearls' WOTC blog where he spoils the first initials of the PHB2 classes like so...

B - Barbarian - Primal Defender
B - Bard - Arcane Leader
D - Druid - Primal Striker
I - ?
S - Sorcerer - Arcane Controller
S - Shaman
T - ?
W - Warden

I thought for sure the T would be Theurge (divine controller) - and we've seen plenty of Theurge powers in the H-series of modules - especially amongst the Duergar. I suppose Theurge could have been renamed to something else.

"I" could be the Invoker.

Remember that one of the classes in Divine Power could slip in via the Eberron Player's Guide, too (ala Sword Mage).

I think that the "T" class was renamed. As for Eberron, we'll be seeing the Artificer for sure, but my gut says no new divine classes there.