Why No Lost?

Second, who is that butcher lady that was holding Locke's corpse for Ben? Ben said something like, "Keep him safe or everything we are about to do won't matter."

Lastly... Didn't Daniel Faraday state that they aren't able to manipulate or change things that already happened? This is why he was able to give a message to Desmond. Which I don't quite understand. Why was Daniel Faraday able to deliver Desmond a message, but no one else was able to (according to Daniel that is)?

And as a follow up to that, why didn't future Danielle Rossueo recognize Jin, since they obviously met in the past?


Think back RM to the experiments done on the rats in the maze.
What moved through time, and what didn't?

That tells you a lot about the more general time movements in relation to the island, and their neurological effects, as well as their perceptual effects.

Personally I loved the particularly apparent religious symbolism of this episode.

Of course the show is chocked full of religious symbolism, but I've seen some of these images and ideas coming for a long time.

John - 316 (3:16), the Doubting Thomas, the body of the Father who has been improperly prepared for burial and therefore cannot rest, the Substitute Savior (JL, Locke - the Locke to the Keys of the Kingdom, he must be "Un-locked" for the island to work properly), and I really liked the allusion Ben made to Jack about Thomas saying, "let us go to die with him."

This was an obvious reference to Jack who had failed to stand beside Locke and therefore had misunderstood his role. Jack never got that Ben was talking to him. (Ben is Judas by the way, serving as both the manipulative SOB seeking his own self-interests, and the one seeking to redeem himself by pushing others to fulfill their own destines.) Jack never gets what others are saying to him, he is as slow as molasses. He is intelligent but his intelligence constantly interferes with his ability to understand anything going on around him. Then again Ben has the same problem in many ways.

And how about his response when Jack asks him how he can read right before they re-enact the crash?

"My mother taught me."

Um, Ben--your mother died giving birth to you. Even his snappy one-liners are loaded with lies.

Indeed, he is the Father of Lies.

I also very much liked Foucault's Pendulum as the method of "tracking the island" both through time and space. The pendulum, along with the calculations, could track the island even when it was "off the Wheel" and adrift, before Locke made the course correction and regained some control of the Wheel. Meaning the island is a Ship of the Soul, as well as a Ship of Time, but what is interesting to me is the fact that the Wheel must have existed long before the Dharma Initiative or anyone introduced thus far. Or the pendulum would not be able to be aligned like a compass to the positional course set by the island. in a way the pendulum is the compass meaning the island is naturally set to the course of the surrounding Earth, and yet distinct enough to be traceable by the curvature movement of the tilt of it.

I suspect that the guitar is indeed Charlie's (they need to recreate prior conditions, and they've already lost several key players and what those players represent) and that several resurrections will occur as the show continues, though not necessarily in the anticipated manner.

Anyone else think that the gentlemen who gave Jack his condolences at the airport is going to be on the island?

He will be, as will some others. They need resurrectional substitutes, remember that is what is going on at this point, as well as the time shifts.

I also found it extremely interesting that Locke hangs himself, i.e. Judas-style in order to make his "sacrifice for the Others." (Notice the irony on the twist on the idea of "who are the Others?" - "Why, the Others are my people too.") And I'm not sure because I had left the room for a moment but when I came back I think Ben was kneeling below him begging him to hang himself. If that was indeed Ben and true then how ironic. I had originally though Locke would get someone to kill him, maybe James or Jack, but if Ben convinced him to commit suicide then he talked Locke into acting as substitute and surrogate not only for Jack and the others, but also for Judas himself (in the guise of Ben). But consider this as well, "not a bone will be broken." Yet another clever prophetic plot twist on the compound fracture at the Well of Time.

Now if Desmond is indeed like Saint Paul then he and Penny and their child may very well shipwreck there in the near future. Or Desmond may simply be "cast overboard" to save the others, but i suspect they will all hit the beaches eventually. And I also liked very much that Lapidus was the pilot. If Desmond can convert Ben and turn him away form trying to kill Widmore's daughter as vengeance for his own stolen daughter's murder then Ben will also be saved. But we'll see.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Lost is like church for television. It may very well be the best show in the history of television. Thoroughly enjoyable.

Though Battlestar Galactica and Heroes are awfully good too, and also chocked full of interesting religious and metaphysical symbolism.

I'm looking forwards to what happens to Aaron.

I'm also glad to see them all reconverging on the island.
 
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And how about his response when Jack asks him how he can read right before they re-enact the crash?

"My mother taught me."

Um, Ben--your mother died giving birth to you. Even his snappy one-liners are loaded with lies.
Yep, that was rich. Also:

"Did you know about this room?"

"No."

"Is he lying?"

"Probably."

Yeah, but now we know he'll just deal with it the way he's shrugged off all of his past trouncings. Not nearly as satisfying.
 
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Lastly... Didn't Daniel Faraday state that they aren't able to manipulate or change things that already happened? This is why he was able to give a message to Desmond. Which I don't quite understand. Why was Daniel Faraday able to deliver Desmond a message, but no one else was able to (according to Daniel that is)?
Faraday didn't want slap-happy impulsive hillbilly Sawyer messing with Desmond in the past(would you?). He had his own plans for him.
 


Just caught it and liked it. One of the few episodes that doesn't bounce back between the Island and "Home," and I liked the variation.

It seems to me that, once Locke turned the wheel, the remaining islanders stopped moving in time and became stuck in the era some time after Dharma arrived but before wheel station was built, which is why we see both Daniel and Jin in Dharma uniforms (how they infiltrated it though is an interesting question).

Open questions: What happened to Aaron? Why would Saiyd be being taken in cuffs to Guam?!? If you were a flight attendant, and saw the exchange between Ben, Hurley, and Jack, would you ever have let that flight off the ground? If you were Lapidas, why not turn the plane right around? And will Lapidas be with them on the island (I think the answer is pretty obviously "yes").

I think it's being implied that the plane didn't crash, but didn't we see a water bottle from that plane somewhere just a few episodes ago?
 


A few thoughts:

Someone above mentioned that he suspects that Ben manipulated Kate and Hurley to get on the plane. Yes, he did Kate, but I don't think he did Hurley. Ben was surprised to see Hurley there.

Charlie told Hurley where and when to go. And to bring along the guitar.

There is now a second line that ranks near the top as far as "Best Lost One Liners"

The best is: "Dude, you have some Arnst on you."

Now taking second place is: "<Sigh> We're not going to Guam, are we?"
 


Perhaps bizarrely, I found this week to be a bit predictable, but I still really enjoyed it.

And that Ben, man oh man. At this point I'm pretty convinced that there are two bad guys against each other, Ben and Charles, with no real good guy.
 

I often like these other-side-of-the-coin POVs but this one seemed to have only Locke's true death as the point. I think they could have squeezed a bit more into this one. Not bad, though, for all that, IMO.
 

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