Shold Wizards release a revised MM1?

[Matrix Sorcica]

Seems to me the new monsters released are just plain more badass than the early 4e monsters. Examples are the adamantine dragon and the remorhaz.

Wizards seem to have learned a lot about the system. It bothers me that some of the most iconic monsters are not as 'attractive' as the new monsters released. In 3E, for me the MM1 remained the most important source for monsters, with the later MMs being secondary.

Should Wizards release a revised version of the MM, or will this just raise outcries of 4.5!! ZoMG!!11!
Is it necessary?

 

[malraux]

I see this as an added bonus of not releasing all the iconic "must have" monsters in MM1.

 

[Rechan]

Only if I can trade in my old MM and get the new one. Buying MM1 again? No thanks.

I see this as an added bonus of not releasing all the iconic "must have" monsters in MM1.

But that's just money grubbing!

But if they're going to revise the MM, I think they ought to revise the PHB. I think the Warlord could really benefit from their expanded understanding of the rules.

 

[Scribble]

I think one of the benefits of how monsters are set up this time around is that I don't feel there is a "standard" monster of X type. IE there isn't one set of Goblin stats that I look at and say "this" is a goblin- everything else is a modified goblin. Each one I see is a "type" of goblin.

So in effect, I don't think they need to re-release the MM1, since they can just add more goblins for instance, or even put out more dragon articles with suggested powers I can swap in and out.

I don't feel it will invalidate the "original" goblin at all, even if I end up using those goblins less.

 

[Vicar In A Tutu]

I think WoTC ought to revise the MM, yes. However, just include the new numbers (and maybe a few revised abilities) in the next printing. All the changes (but obviously not the book itself) should be documented online, in a file that everyone can download for free.

 

[Rechan]

I think WoTC ought to revise the MM, yes. However, just include the new numbers (and maybe a few revised abilities) in the next printing. All the changes (but obviously not the book itself) should be documented online, in a file that everyone can download for free.

That would be nice.

 

[Vyvyan Basterd]

I think WoTC ought to revise the MM, yes. However, just include the new numbers (and maybe a few revised abilities) in the next printing. All the changes (but obviously not the book itself) should be documented online, in a file that everyone can download for free.

All the changes they've made are here for everyone to download for free:

Updates

Some changes have already been made to monsters. Most notably upping the damage dealt by Brutes.

These files available for free, updated versions in DDi, and corrections made in the next MM print run would be sufficient for me.

 

[Rechan]

All the changes they've made are here for everyone to download for free:

Updates

Some changes have already been made to monsters. Most notably upping the damage dealt by Brutes.

THat's ERATTA. Not going back and re-designing them with the new standards.

Like how Solos seem to be more offense, less defense, and have more attacks period.

 

[Vyvyan Basterd]

THat's ERATTA. Not going back and re-designing them with the new standards.

Like how Solos seem to be more offense, less defense, and have more attacks period.

I doubt they will go back and do a complete redesign of the MM. Any changes would be the application of trends that they have discovered. Like lowering the HPs of elites and solos and upping their damages. Patches basically. And those could easily be handled in the Update files. Could be why the decided on the name Updates instead of Errata. It allows them to include items that aren't just mistakes, but changes to improve gameplay.

I was mainly pointing out that they already have a place to update people who have not subscribed at no cost. And that they made a few changes already. I do think they could make more to improve the creatures in the MM.

 

[Shroomy]

While WoTC may have tweaked at least some of the solos and elites, I'm betting the majority of the monsters in MM2 are still at the general power level of the ones in the MM. I mean, I haven't seen a great disparity between the monsters in the MM and those in other sourcebooks WoTC has released so far.