Shold Wizards release a revised MM1?

[korjik]

Too bad they didnt learn the system before they published it.

It seems to me that all the books could stand a revision already. PHB as much as MM. Maybe they could put some content in the DMG too.

I think that the system will need updating after PHB3 comes out next year. Things will need to be rebalanced against one another by then. Plus, there will probably be some hated things eliminated and liked things expanded at the time.

 

[Dionysos]

I don't see why they couldn't just up the damage and lower the HP of the MM1 creatures in an errata document, and then when they reprint the MM, reprint it with errata.

That would probably be a great scenario for both the fans and for WotC. People who don't want to buy another MM would have the new stats for free, and others (like me) would gladly buy another copy to have scarier versions of a lot of the iconic monsters in print. And as it is a reprint with errata rather than a new edition or 4.5 or whatever, they wouldn't have to print more books than what they were going to print anyway.

And given that people like me are out there, this errata'd printing would likely sell somewhat better than most subsequent runs of existing books.

So, yes Wizards, please do it.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Lets drop any "4.5" related comments please.

Thanks guys,

 

[Dice4Hire]

Too bad they didnt learn the system before they published it.

Did you always do something new perfectly the first time? Are you an expert golfer after you practice a year?

This is really an unreasonable comment, and I really see it a lot. There is a huge difference between a year of playtesting with hundreds of people, and then releasing it to tens or hundreds of thousands. The tens of thousands are gonna find more about the game as multiple hundreds of thousands of hours of the game are done.

If you have ever said, "Hey, I never considered that..." then you are in WOTC's shoes.

 

[Harr]

I think all the Core triad - PH1, MM1, DMG1 - could sorely do with a full re-design and re-print. Something that incorporates all the advances and insights developed so far in the game from its beginning. It would improve the game and *keep it* on the road of constant improvement, which is how it should be.

Of course, WotC's fear at the backlash and criticism that doing something like that would engender will probably keep them from ever fully going through with it. The situation is illustrative of how a vocal minority with an agenda to follow often not only succeeds in slowing the growth of a good thing, but also in actually and actively hurting it and those who enjoy it. It's sad, but the world is what it is.

 

[WhatGravitas]

The MMI is a solid book, and I see no reason to make a lot of changes. I would rather see WOTC put is time and energy towards the next book.

So is the PHBI - both are solid books that work, but I get the feeling that the newer books, starting with PHB2 and AP are more interesting in terms of options, i.e. they offer a lot more variety. The core books are very conservative with effects of powers and abilities of monsters.

Cheers, LT.

 

[Nebulous]

Did you always do something new perfectly the first time? Are you an expert golfer after you practice a year?

This is really an unreasonable comment, and I really see it a lot. There is a huge difference between a year of playtesting with hundreds of people, and then releasing it to tens or hundreds of thousands. The tens of thousands are gonna find more about the game as multiple hundreds of thousands of hours of the game are done.

I only wish they had playtested longer, or with more people, but i generally agree with you. Despite the problems i have with 4e, it is a good system and they really broke some new ground. I think the game can keep getting better and better.

 

[RangerWickett]

What are some specific changes people would suggest? This could be a fan-driven thing, perhaps released as a freebie pdf.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

What are some specific changes people would suggest? This could be a fan-driven thing, perhaps released as a freebie pdf.

More interesting options/abilities for some MM solos.

HP adjustment according to the newest designs.

Damage output adjusted for most monsters (almost none of them follow the advice in the DMG).

Beefier chromatic dragons, please. The fear an adamantine dragon is going to instill in the PCs is how a red dragon should be, IMO.


That's just for starters.

 

[Scribble]

What's the difference though if they release a "revised" monster, or a new monster of the same type, but different options? There aren't any "default" monsters anymore. They're all just various depictions of different monsters.

I guess with the dragons you could classify them as defaults, because they're broken up by age... But why not just release a "new" Red Dragon, give it a new Nounverb at the end, and have at ye?