Hideous Blow= AoO?

[risner]

Does Hideous Blow provoke attacks of Opportunity?

Is Hideous Blow a Warlock Invocation?
They provoke unless otherwise specified, Hideous Blow doesn't specify so they provoke.

This is one of those cases where we actually know the RAI.

One of the designers of the Warlock class has stated that Hideous Blow should not provoke AoO.

However, I think that at some later point there was a Sage Advice that reiterated the RAW answer that it does provoke?

I believe they answered a different question than you think. They answered "does the attack provided by Hideous Blow provoke?" instead of "does invoking Hideous Bow provoke?"

Andy did in fact answer this in a new Sage Advise (also known as FAQ) that the invocation provokes, but the attack doesn't provoke.

 

[starwed]

I believe they answered a different question than you think. They answered "does the attack provided by Hideous Blow provoke?" instead of "does invoking Hideous Bow provoke?"

Andy did in fact answer this in a new Sage Advise (also known as FAQ) that the invocation provokes, but the attack doesn't provoke.

Nah, if you go back to the original thread you can see that people are specifically discussing whether using the invocation provokes. Baker first says that it appears that it would by RAW, but that it probably shouldn't and he will check with the other developers of the class on the intent of the invocation. Then:

I checked with our developers, and we agree: Hideous Blow does not provoke an attack of opportunity. Andy Collins will clarify that in an upcoming Sage Advice.

 

[Darklone]

Which was the invocation that allowed for iterative attacks in melee?

 

[irdeggman]

Which was the invocation that allowed for iterative attacks in melee?

There isn't one as far as I know.

Eldritch Glaive (from dragon magic) lasts until your next turn so you get to use it for AoO but it still takes a standard action to invoke so no full attack.

Now if you used quickened spell like ability and invoked it a a swift action then it would be available for use as a full attack and still last until your next turn.

But as far as I know there are no invocations that allow for iterative attacks (normally).

Unless you are thinkng of Eldrtich Chain essence which allows you to attack several opponents in sequence - limited by your level and with a reduced damage on each oppponent and separate attack rolls, But it is not an iterative attack.

 

[Runestar]

Eldritch Glaive (from dragon magic) lasts until your next turn so you get to use it for AoO but it still takes a standard action to invoke so no full attack.

The wording for eldritch glaive is a little ambiguous, but I think you are supposed to activate it and make your full attack as part of the same full-round action. Else, it would be useless, in that you would never be able to attack with it (which seems contrary to the part where you get iterative attacks for high bab).

There is an epic feat which lets your warlock use his EB twice each round, but it is not an iterative attack.

 

[Ahnehnois]

Might as well houserule/FAQ it to no AoO, given that it's worthless strictly by the RAW.

In fact, I ran a multiclassed warlock and ignored the AoO and it wasn't earth-shatteringly powerful.


Eldritch Glaive states that you are supposed to be able to make iterative attacks with it (someehow). The wording isn't clear on whether the full-round action used in attacking incorporates the standard action normally required use use an invocation. It also doesn't state a duration. I think it is safe to assume that it is supposed to be: use a full-round action to create the glaive and make a full attack with it; threaten surrounding spaces until your next turn, at which point the glaive disappears.

It is also of note that the glaive is a touch attack.

There is an epic feat which lets your warlock use his EB twice each round, but it is not an iterative attack.

Just out of curiosity, where?

 

[Runestar]

Here.

Epic Insights: Epic Warlock Feats

More specifically, you are looking for this feat.

Eldritch Sculptor [Epic]​

You control and shape your eldritch blasts like a master sculptor.​

Prerequisites: One invocation from the least, lesser, greater, and dark blast shape invocation categories, Spellcraft 24 ranks.​

Benefit: You can use two eldritch blasts per round as a full attack action, rather than the normal limit of one. You can apply eldritch essences to both blasts. If you possess the Lord of All Essences feat, you can imbue each blast with two eldritch essences. Activating this ability is part of the action to use an eldritch blast.​

The area and range of all your eldritch blasts is doubled. Activating this ability is part of the action to use an eldritch blast. If you imbue your eldritch blast with the eldritch spear blast shape, the range increases to 500 feet. If you are using the hideous blow invocation, you no longer suffer attacks of opportunity for invoking this power in melee and all attacks of opportunity you make can include hideous blow. If you imbue your eldritch blast with the eldritch chain blast shape, you may start the chain up to 120 feet away from you and the maximum distance between each target increases to 60 feet. The area of the eldritch doom blast shape increases to 40 feet from you. The range of your eldritch cone increases to 120 feet.​

You gain +2 bonus on attack rolls to hit an opponent with your eldritch blast. This is an extraordinary ability.​

Normal: A warlock can use only one eldritch blast per round. Using the hideous blow blast shape provokes attacks of opportunity and cannot be used as part of an attack of opportunity.​

 

[risner]

Nah, if you go back to the original thread you can see that people are specifically discussing whether using the invocation provokes. Baker first says that it appears that it would by RAW, but that it probably shouldn't and he will check with the other developers of the class on the intent of the invocation. Then:

I read the forum, I disagree. I don't believe he is saying the Invocation provokes. I also believe the FAQ that was published within a week of that post clarified the question I believe he answered in the thread you linked.

 

[Ahnehnois]

Here.

Epic Insights: Epic Warlock Feats

More specifically, you are looking for this feat.

I followed Epic Insights and that sort of stuff but I don't remember having seen this one. Great stuff! Thanks.

 

[Runestar]

And interestingly enough, the eldritch sculptor feat also mentions hideous blow normally provoking an AoO.