Why the beer hate? (Forked Thread: What are the no-goes...)

[Aus_Snow]

Probably not.

But neither is it common for embarrassing, inebriated behavior to break out every time adults drink some wine, say while they're at a proper restaurant. My wife and I can attest to this. We dine out all the time, in Philadelphia, no less, a city not known for its couth .

Yeah, I know. I don't mind a few drinks from time to time, either. As it so happens.

I might've come across a bit snippy before, and if so, sorry - in particular to malraux, to whom I was directly responding. Again, there are reasons. :/ I've felt compelled to defend IRL that choice I referred to, that a couple of friends of mine made, quite some time ago. And basically, because I felt that their choice was quite fine and shouldn't even need defending in the first place, the whole situation(s) bugged me a fair bit. So, maybe even vaguely similar statements still can, to some extent.

Gah, perhaps it's better I leave the subject well alone.

 

[loki8481]

I'm not sure I'd get along well with a DM or a player who was so uptight that they wouldn't allow any drinking whatsoever... I'm a big boy, I know my limits, a glass of wine or two isn't going to make me drunk but will help me relax a little more.

getting outright drunk, otoh, I agree is definitely disruptive to the gameplay experience. as a DM, I tend to give my players the benefit of the doubt if they want to drink while they play, but if they're getting drunk or make a habit of getting drunk, I'd definitely say something about it.

as far as smoking goes, it's just plain against my lease. I've got no problem if someone wants to step outside and grab a smoke when they're not actively involved in something.

 

[Bumbles]

Gah, perhaps it's better I leave the subject well alone.

We probably all should, it's a hot button issue I just don't see being resolved. I don't know that I truly believe anything I say will serve any real purpose no matter what I say.

I'm not sure I'd get along well with a DM or a player who was so uptight that they wouldn't allow any drinking whatsoever...

And I know I wouldn't get along well with a DM or player who was so uptight that they wouldn't accept my preference to avoid the consumption of alcohol or the effects it has on people.

I know my limits myself, and people drinking and gaming is one of them. I have not found it effective to say something about it to a person with a particular issue, as that just leads to the same resentment I get from making it a rule upfront, with the problem of it feeling personal.

I'm far more comfortable saying "I don't trust any of you" than I am saying "I don't trust you" so I go with what's best for me. This principle also applies to borrowing my things. I say "Nobody gets to borrow my stuff" and I'm far happier with that than having to say to somebody that I have a problem with them.

I leave that to libraries.

 

[Invisible Stalker]

Have you gone yet this year? If not, consider finding a nice, local, independent seafood restaurant and have dinner there. Consult Zagat's or Yelp or ask some co-workers for suggestions.

If you only dine out once a year it shouldn't be at Red Lobster. Those chain restaurants are like feeding troughs for the long pigs...

(can you tell I didn't enjoy my last meal at Red Lobster)

It's far enough just to get to Red Lobster from my little village.

 

[Lancelot]

I have no problem with drinks at my games, but it's very rare that anyone will do it. We play late Thursday nights after work (every week, ending at 11pm-1am) so it's more likely we'll be chugging Coca-Cola, coffee and energy drinks to keep the spirits high.

Now, actually getting to sleep after a session... that's another story. Our record is going through 16 liters of Coca Cola (plus assorted energy drinks) in one session, between 5 of us. I don't think I slept that night at all.

We'll crack open a few beers or a bottle of rum every 3-6 months for a special occasion at one of our fortnightly (...that's every two weeks, for our American friends...) weekend sessions. Maybe somebody just got engaged, or it's their birthday. No issue for any of us.

However, it's something that I keep an eye on. The only time I've ended a session/group was because of alcohol. One of the players thought it'd be fun to go through a bottle of whiskey (just him and one other player drinking) over the course of 3 hours. He started getting combative (in a joking fashion) regarding the module, pointing out all the supposed plot holes and the "funny" NPC names. It ruined everybody's suspension of disbelief pretty rapidly, which meant the session became a real drag. What really pushed it over the edge, however, was his "humorous" antics in the car when I took some of the guys out to get a bite to eat. Pulling the handbrake on and taking my (manual) car out of gear while I was trying to drive nearly had me throwing him out of the car.

 

[Obryn]

In response to some of the above - seriously, if one or more of the people at the table is a recovering alcoholic, I think it's sensible and responsible to ban drinking. Again, it's a social event, and that's the kind of courtesy I'd expect from a group of friends.

That's a far cry from social phobias involving drinking, though. Completely different situation, IMHO.

-O

 

[JRRNeiklot]

And for what it's worth, I do know folks who ban drinking in some rooms of their houses, so it's hardly unimaginable to me that somebody would possibly bring that up in a gaming situation. Spills can be really bad to some collectible material, y'know?

Yes, and soft drinks do just as much damage as beer, yet they are okay.

Now if you are specifically banning water, I'd like to see your reason, as I see none. At least with alcohol there are known effects which I would be very surprised if anybody was unaware of them

I'm not aware of any effects. I see no difference between alcohol and water here. Both will ruin a 1974 Men and Monsters book if spilled upon it. Neither will jump up and slap the dm in the mouth.

 

[Bumbles]

I'm not aware of any effects.

Ok, then that might be a problem. I can only suggest you educate yourself.

 

[Shemeska]

We've never drunk regularly at the game table, but largely because my group isn't much for social drinking outside of major holidays for the most part. The one time we did, the alcohol (seriously high grade imported rum) was also an in-game prop for a pirate themed game.

I wouldn't have a problem with players bringing alcohol so long as they were willing to share with everyone else. I don't have any players that would have a problem with drinking, be it for bad experiences (recovering alcoholic, etc) or religious prohibitions (Mormon, etc).

 

[loki8481]

And I know I wouldn't get along well with a DM or player who was so uptight that they wouldn't accept my preference to avoid the consumption of alcohol or the effects it has on people.

fair enough, different strokes for different folks

for me, the social aspect of hanging around a table with a bunch of friends is just as important as the game itself... if a DM didn't trust me with a glass of wine, it'd be a major distraction.