Is there anything that modifies bloodied and or surge value

the toughness feat increases your hitpoints, which in turn affects bloodied and surge values.

true, but it doesnt change the percentage value of bloodied and surge compared to max.

or you could say levelling changes them, when you get more hp. the thing is its the percentage values based on max hp that this person wants to know.

Nothing modifies bloodied value that I can think of, though a number of items have powers which when activated make it count as though you were bloodied for various effects.
it would be interesting to have a monster that gets to do more damage or cause ailments if the target is bloodied, or get a free basic attack if an adjacent enemy becomes bloody. And then this stuff would proc it. swiss cheese barbarian sausage links anyone?
 

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it would be interesting to have a monster that gets to do more damage or cause ailments if the target is bloodied, or get a free basic attack if an adjacent enemy becomes bloody.

I can't remember which monster, but I am almost positive I've seen at least one monster in the MM2 that does extra damage to the target if the target is bloodied.

Of course, I could just be senile and remembering wrong (which is always a likely possibility in itself). :)
 

I can't remember which monster, but I am almost positive I've seen at least one monster in the MM2 that does extra damage to the target if the target is bloodied.
I want to say there are plenty of them. :) There are some in the MM.

I've avoided reading MM2 so I can be surprised when we fight stuff. So until I run again each fight may bring something new!
 

true, but it doesnt change the percentage value of bloodied and surge compared to max.

or you could say levelling changes them, when you get more hp. the thing is its the percentage values based on max hp that this person wants to know.

it would be interesting to have a monster that gets to do more damage or cause ailments if the target is bloodied, or get a free basic attack if an adjacent enemy becomes bloody. And then this stuff would proc it. swiss cheese barbarian sausage links anyone?

See the Sahaguin Baron for excellent damage bonus when bloodied (I run a PbP game here and the barbarian did indeed end up like swiss cheese sausage links ;))
 

I want to say there are plenty of them. :) There are some in the MM.

I've avoided reading MM2 so I can be surprised when we fight stuff. So until I run again each fight may bring something new!

Ah okay - all I was thinking about in MM1 were things that is the monster is bloodied, he does more damage. Rather than if the target is bloodied, the monster does more damage to it specifically. But I guess there are some of both in MM1 and I wasn't remembering at all! :D
 



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