More Dark SUn tidbits by Rich Baker

[Henrix]

Glad to see the thri-kreen and mul, but where's the half-giant? I wonder if they're redefining things and going with the goliath.

Or perhaps redefining the goliath.

 

[vagabundo]

I can see a few problems with redefining the 4e races to some of the iconic races of DS; what if someone doesn't have the PHBIII?

I hope they redefine the original PHB races and include suggestings for the PHBII and PHBIII races, but include Mul and Half-giants in the DS players book.

I like that they will give ideas on how to use the stuff I've bought, but I dont want it to rely on buying more books or carting all the PHB's around with to to the game sessions to run a DS session. I'll need a little wheelbarrow if that happens.

 

[Wik]

I can see a few problems with redefining the 4e races to some of the iconic races of DS; what if someone doesn't have the PHBIII?

I hope they redefine the original PHB races and include suggestings for the PHBII and PHBIII races, but include Mul and Half-giants in the DS players book.

I like that they will give ideas on how to use the stuff I've bought, but I dont want it to rely on buying more books or carting all the PHB's around with to to the game sessions to run a DS session. I'll need a little wheelbarrow if that happens.

But, see, it's good from a marketing sense. And if they can include some of those new DS races in the PHB 3, the ones that could be "general" races (and I think Mul would be perfect as a PHB 3 race, half-giants too), then there's more room for campaign-specific info in the DS page count.

Yeah, it sucks that you need to buy more books, but that's what they want as a publisher.

And it's easier these days, because a DDI subscription means you don't need to carry nearly as many books.

 

[vagabundo]

But, see, it's good from a marketing sense. And if they can include some of those new DS races in the PHB 3, the ones that could be "general" races (and I think Mul would be perfect as a PHB 3 race, half-giants too), then there's more room for campaign-specific info in the DS page count.

Yeah, it sucks that you need to buy more books, but that's what they want as a publisher.

And it's easier these days, because a DDI subscription means you don't need to carry nearly as many books.

It is not buying the books really, more managing the information - and yes the electronic/DDI stuff is excellent, but it should help not be compulsory.

If I want to run DS I dont want to have to reference several PHBs to get information on a mul Templar/Gladiator (hybrid). And as I run a paper-only game table, we still reference the books every so often. Although most of the prep work and character sheets are done with DDI tools.

Still, I'd prefer to get an excellent DS setting out of this at the end, so I suppose if this happens it is a minor gripe...

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Sneak peak of 4th ed Dark Sun!

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lol, sorry, couldn't resist! So damn happy to see Dark Sun come back and get treated with respect
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[avin]

That should be good or bad?

 

[Hadrian the Builder]

I'm really disappointed that there's been word on half-giants in the setting as a charachter race. Goliaths just don't cut it.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

Countdown to wailing and gnashing in 3...

Not really. Everyone on the fourm already said everything that was going to be said on the previous thread.

The question is how they do this. That's when the wailing and gnashing of teeth will go into full swing

Edit: If it's true that they are putting Muls and Thri-kreen in another book, that is incredibly asinine. Forcing players to buy PHBIII to play Dark Sun is stupifyingly mean spirited. If that is true.

 

[Dausuul]

Edit: If it's true that they are putting Muls and Thri-kreen in another book, that is incredibly asinine. Forcing players to buy PHBIII to play Dark Sun is stupifyingly mean spirited. If that is true.

Not sure I agree with this. You don't have to be a mul or a thri-kreen to play in Dark Sun, any more than you have to be a shifter (PHB2) to play in Eberron.

Psionics are a big part of DS; as far as I know, though, they aren't putting the psionic classes in the Dark Sun rulebook. Is that not also asinine and mean-spirited? But if they did put them in the DS book, wouldn't it be asinine and mean-spirited to force players to buy Dark Sun in order to play monks?

Bottom line, you're really going to need PHB3 to get the most out of Dark Sun. No way around it. They might as well put the muls and thri-kreen there along with the psionicists, and free up space in the Player's Guide.

 

[Wik]

Which is really no different than 2e Dark Sun, which required you to have the Psionics Book.