No Character Builder Update

[BASHMAN]

I just don't get why there are so many apologists here getting mad that someone says "well if they delayed my Sept. update, I should be allowed to delay my Sept. payment". To me that sounds perfectly fair & reasonable.

I once subscribed to a magazine that was supposed to be 6 issues/year. They ended up only putting out 4. Guess what they did- they gave me the next two issues from the next year to honor their end of the subscription of 6 issues what a concept.

Does this mean that everyone will get a free month added to the end of their DDI subscription? Only time will tell...

 

[True_Blue]

I use the Character Builder and Dungeon magazine, and that's about it. I don't mess with the Monster Builder because personally I don't feel I need to. I run pre-made adventures and they usually have the stat blocks in them, and if I need a monster, I just use one from one of the MM's. Dragon magazine I don't really need to read because I just wait for it to come out in the Character Builder, then I use the stuff. I've read a couple of Dragon's, and used one or two things early (especially right now for Templars), but overall I don't need it.

Basically for me to play a session, I use the Character Builder, a Dungeon magazine, and my PHB. And then in addition to that I have a battlemap, dungeon tiles, miniatures, and my dapper devil tokens.

 

[MrMyth]

I just don't get the refund entitlement. Really, I am sorry if I am being dense, but it looks like they spoiled us with great tools, timely updates and people now feel that their $6/month should give them buckets of gold too.

I think the refunds are offered mainly for those whose subscription might run out at the end of September. Thus, they would miss the update entirely. So WotC has in the past been willing to reimburse them or extend subscription for a month so they can get the update.

But, of course, if they are doing that for some people, it would be poor service to deny others who were already signed up for subscription through October. Thus, WotC is willing to keep everyone happy by offering refunds to those who are genuinely frustrated over this.

 

[P1NBACK]

P1NBACK - even if its $10, if you are that tight you likely have bigger problems than wotc missing a update time. $4 really should have no impact on your budget. There are far easier ways to trim a budget down than that. Heck you could turn off your lights more or raise the thermostat (in summer) and save way more than that.

Nah. See. There you go assuming about me. Stop that.

You don't know the first thing about my budget. I said my entertainment budget. Meaning, I have X amount of dollars set aside for entertainment each month/year. When I spend $10 on D&D products (not including any tiles, minis, or books I buy) that's taking away from something else I might do that's entertaining (go to a movie, subscribe to WoW, etc...).

So, if I have a choice of A) spend $10 on nothing or B) go to the movies, which do you think I'm going to do?

Quit presuming my entertainment fund has anything to do with my living expenses. That's just ing rude.

 

[Jhaelen]

I just don't get why there are so many apologists here getting mad that someone says "well if they delayed my Sept. update, I should be allowed to delay my Sept. payment". To me that sounds perfectly fair & reasonable.

I once subscribed to a magazine that was supposed to be 6 issues/year. They ended up only putting out 4. Guess what they did- they gave me the next two issues from the next year to honor their end of the subscription of 6 issues what a concept.

And I don't get why so many people are missing the point.

Subscribers did not miss a single issue of the magazines they subscribed for. What they missed (assuming their subscription ran out at the end of this month) was an update of a tool that noone ever guaranteed would be updated every month.

There might be subscribers that are really only interested in the magazines, just like P1NBACK is only interested in the character builder / compendium. So, they lost exactly nothing.

When I'm paying for software maintenance for a year, I'm not usually guaranteed to get a fixed number of updates. I'm just guaranteed to get all maintenance releases that happen to be released in that year.

Your DDI subscription is for the whole package, you cannot subscribe to only part of the offer. You aren't entitled to a refund just because you don't care about part of the package.

 

[P1NBACK]

You aren't entitled to a refund just because you don't care about part of the package.

Actually, yes, we are. I got my refund days ago. Thanks WotC!

This thread should be over. Those of you concerned about the lack of update can email CS and get a refund. Those of you who could care less, well you get to continue life as normal!

 

[Jhaelen]

So, if I have a choice of A) spend $10 on nothing or B) go to the movies, which do you think I'm going to do?

But you didn't get 'nothing'. You got a new issue of Dungeon and Dragon.

And please watch your language. This flood of smilies does not help in arguing your case.

 

[Jhaelen]

Actually, yes, we are. I got my refund days ago. Thanks WotC!

No, 'we' aren't. You got a refund as an amiability and not because you were entitled a refund.

 

[Goonalan]

Is this that thread...

Just in case-

peeve
tr.v. peeved, peev·ing, peeves
To cause to be annoyed or resentful. See Synonyms at annoy.
n.
1. A vexation; a grievance.
2. A resentful mood: in a peeve about the delays.

This is the a thread started by a guy who was peeved that the DDI update was not going to happen at the time Wizards said.

He was, and probably still is... peeved.

Other people have joined the thread to agree and say they are peeved (to a lesser, and sometimes much greater extent).

Levels of peevishness may differ.

Other people have joined the thread to offer explanations to mitigate the levels of peevishness being felt by the OP and others.

Some of these individuals are peeved that the OP (and others) are peeved at all.

Levels of peevishness may differ.

Those that are peeved because of the DDI delay are now doubly peeved because 'other people' are telling them how peeved (or not) they should feel.

The peeved are becoming even more peeved, and are beginning to transfer their initial peeve to those that are telling them how and when to be peeved.

This peevishness has caused those previously unpeeved by the DDI delay to to become increasingly peeved with the people who are peeved with the DDI delay, and are now peeved with them.

Is this that thread?

Because if it is, apologies, I meant to post somewhere else...

 

[P1NBACK]

But you didn't get 'nothing'. You got a new issue of Dungeon and Dragon.

And please watch your language. This flood of smilies does not help in arguing your case.

Nope. I don't use the Dungeon and Dragon magazine. So, really, I got nothing this month. I notified WotC, and they refunded the money. It's not a big deal. You don't have to be upset with me about it. I know you're a staunch WotC patriot, but really... It's gone overboard.

And, I'll use the language if it calls for it. Insulting me calls for it. Thank you very much.