I need a little help, Pathfinder has a canary available for a pet, but no stats for it. Normally I admit there is no real need for canary stats but my character speaks auran and a high handle animal. The GM has told me that I can use the bird for scouting but only if I can find some believable stats for it. So if you know were I can find some sort of little bird stats that I can use as a canary, or you have a home made you would give me that would be wonderful.
The Canary riddle
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I shrunk the raven entry in the SRD a size category.
Canary
Diminutive Animal
Hit Dice: 1/4 d8 (1 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 5 ft (1 square), fly 40 ft. (good)
Armor Class: 16 (+4 size, +2 Dex), touch 16, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/–17
Attack: —
Full Attack: —
Space/Reach: 1 ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: Low-light vision
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +2
Abilities: Str 1, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 4
Skills: Listen +4, Spot +7
Feats: Alertness
Environment: Tropical islands
Organization: Solitary, mated pair, flock (10-40)
Challenge Rating: 1/10
Advancement: —
Level Adjustment: —
Canaries are small seed eating birds with bright feathers that are often kepts as pets.
Combat
I expect Pathfinder uses a slightly different creature stat block, but this is as far as I could take it with limited time.
Canary
Diminutive Animal
Hit Dice: 1/4 d8 (1 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 5 ft (1 square), fly 40 ft. (good)
Armor Class: 16 (+4 size, +2 Dex), touch 16, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/–17
Attack: —
Full Attack: —
Space/Reach: 1 ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: Low-light vision
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +2
Abilities: Str 1, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 4
Skills: Listen +4, Spot +7
Feats: Alertness
Environment: Tropical islands
Organization: Solitary, mated pair, flock (10-40)
Challenge Rating: 1/10
Advancement: —
Level Adjustment: —
Canaries are small seed eating birds with bright feathers that are often kepts as pets.
Combat
I expect Pathfinder uses a slightly different creature stat block, but this is as far as I could take it with limited time.
Aberzanzorax
Hero
Here are the stats for a raven:
Raven - Pathfinder_OGC
If I were to simulate a canary, I'd take those stats, and drop: low light vision, Dex by 4, the feats skill focus (perception) and weapon finesse, and the skill perception.
I'd add: 7 to charisma (giving a bonus of +2 at 14 Cha), and the feats skill focus (perform - singing) and , skill focus (diplomacy) and add the skill perform.
While a canary is a fun and viable scout, I don't think it's necessarily a primary/awesome scout.
I do think it could be more of a "spy"...performing, hanging out, and, using druid or ranger spells, communicating knowledge to its owner.
I'd use a canary to perform and ingratiate itself to others, and also to give an "aid another" to diplomacy checks.
As a dm, I'd rule that a successful perform check would be a +2 to the diplomacy check. As a total, that'd be +2 from charisma, +2 on a successful perform check, and the +3 bonus from skill focus (diplomacy).
So, should it sing well, that's +7 to an aid another on diplomacy and a +5 without singing well (a roll of 3 or 5 on a d20).
EDIT: Upon reading the above post...good idea shrinking it a size category.
Raven - Pathfinder_OGC
If I were to simulate a canary, I'd take those stats, and drop: low light vision, Dex by 4, the feats skill focus (perception) and weapon finesse, and the skill perception.
I'd add: 7 to charisma (giving a bonus of +2 at 14 Cha), and the feats skill focus (perform - singing) and , skill focus (diplomacy) and add the skill perform.
While a canary is a fun and viable scout, I don't think it's necessarily a primary/awesome scout.
I do think it could be more of a "spy"...performing, hanging out, and, using druid or ranger spells, communicating knowledge to its owner.
I'd use a canary to perform and ingratiate itself to others, and also to give an "aid another" to diplomacy checks.
As a dm, I'd rule that a successful perform check would be a +2 to the diplomacy check. As a total, that'd be +2 from charisma, +2 on a successful perform check, and the +3 bonus from skill focus (diplomacy).
So, should it sing well, that's +7 to an aid another on diplomacy and a +5 without singing well (a roll of 3 or 5 on a d20).
EDIT: Upon reading the above post...good idea shrinking it a size category.
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Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
If you have access to the 3.5 DMG, it has stats for a thrush, under the "small familiars" entry for familiars for larger and smaller than medium NPCs. (It doesn't seem to be in the SRD.) I don't think anyone could argue with swapping a canary for a thrush.
My gnome illusionist uses one, and they're awesome scouts/messengers in an urban campaign. Things might go poorly in, say, the Underdark, however.
My gnome illusionist uses one, and they're awesome scouts/messengers in an urban campaign. Things might go poorly in, say, the Underdark, however.
Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
Stay out of coal mines ... as a DM I'd have a lot of fun with a canary pet.
He has already threatened to make it a narcoleptic so that it will pas out at random times.
Siberys
Adventurer
In the bestiary, the 'familiars' entry should have a suitable avian. A modified Raven, as suggested above, would probably be best, but I honestly don't think you need stats for something like that. I mean, it won't be attacking anything during fights, will it?
A question, though; do you have speak with animals? Or scroll use or a familiar? I don't see how you'd be able to use a canary as a scout otherwise; how will you speak with it? I mean, I see you mentioned you speak Auran, and I hope I'm not bursting any bubbles, but creatures of elemental air speak that - genies, air elementals, and so on. Not mundane birds. It could still be used as a carrier pigeon, but that doesn't sound like what you're going for. Of course, if your DM's fine with it, this paragraph is moot.
A question, though; do you have speak with animals? Or scroll use or a familiar? I don't see how you'd be able to use a canary as a scout otherwise; how will you speak with it? I mean, I see you mentioned you speak Auran, and I hope I'm not bursting any bubbles, but creatures of elemental air speak that - genies, air elementals, and so on. Not mundane birds. It could still be used as a carrier pigeon, but that doesn't sound like what you're going for. Of course, if your DM's fine with it, this paragraph is moot.
Could some one give me thrush stats I don’t have 3.5 DMG
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