Converting Monsters from Dungeon Magazine

[Shade]

I'm a little confused, are we also writing a swarm version of these? Can't we just say they can hide amongst other insects? Or masquerade as a verminous insect of Fine size or something?

No swarm version--they just hide among existing swarms. So probably some combination of your latter two sentences.

Cleon's suggested Str 11, Dex 17, Con 13, Int 4, Wis 12, Cha 10, no natural armor appeals.

I'll get a Homebrews going shortly.

 

[Cleon]

No swarm version--they just hide among existing swarms. So probably some combination of your latter two sentences.

Cleon's suggested Str 11, Dex 17, Con 13, Int 4, Wis 12, Cha 10, no natural armor appeals.

Thanks.

I'll get a Homebrews going shortly.

I'll wait impatiently.

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews.

 

[freyar]

Standard and swift actions work for me.

How about this?

Masquerade (Ex): When a demonic sawfly is Fine size, it appears to be a verminous insect unless the viewer succeeds at a DC 20? Spot or Knowledge (the planes)? check to recognize it as a magical creature.

 

[Cleon]

Standard and swift actions work for me.

How about this?

Masquerade (Ex): When a demonic sawfly is Fine size, it appears to be a verminous insect unless the viewer succeeds at a DC 20? Spot or Knowledge (the planes)? check to recognize it as a magical creature.

I would prefer a Spot vs Disguise approach, with a hefty bonus (racial?) to the sawfly's Disguise check and maybe an additional even heftier circumstance penalty for when its concealing itself in a Swarm.

 

[Shade]

I would prefer a Spot vs Disguise approach, with a hefty bonus (racial?) to the sawfly's Disguise check and maybe an additional even heftier circumstance penalty for when its concealing itself in a Swarm.

I agree, except I'd prefer an improved bonus (like many creatures' Hide bonus improving when immobile) rather than a penalty on the observer.

 

[Cleon]

I agree, except I'd prefer an improved bonus (like many creatures' Hide bonus improving when immobile) rather than a penalty on the observer.

What the blazes? I could have sworn I put "circumstance bonus" in my last post, not "circumstance penalty".

In other words, I agree.

 

[Shade]

Thus...

Masquerade (Ex): When a demonic sawfly assumes Fine size, it appears to be a verminous insect unless the viewer succeeds on a Spot check opposed by the sawfly's Disguise check. The demonic sawfly gains a +8 circumstance bonus on Disguise checks to masquerade as part of a swarm of Fine vermin.

Skills: *A demonic sawfly has a +8 racial bonus on Disguise checks made to impersonate a mundane vermin.

 

[Cleon]

Thus...

Masquerade (Ex): When a demonic sawfly assumes Fine size, it appears to be a verminous insect unless the viewer succeeds on a Spot check opposed by the sawfly's Disguise check. The demonic sawfly gains a +8 circumstance bonus on Disguise checks to masquerade as part of a swarm of Fine vermin.

Skills: *A demonic sawfly has a +8 racial bonus on Disguise checks made to impersonate a mundane vermin.

I was thinking of a bigger circumstance bonus than that, somewhere between +12 and +20, and probably a +10 bonus to impersonate a single mundane vermin (i.e. same bonus as disguise self).

 

[Shade]

I was thinking of a bigger circumstance bonus than that, somewhere between +12 and +20, and probably a +10 bonus to impersonate a single mundane vermin (i.e. same bonus as disguise self).

+10 racial, +12 circumstance appeals.