Multiclass Monks and Flurry of Blows

[Aluvial]

I'm trying to figure out a Monk's flurry bonuses and I'm not sure if I understand the rules correctly. Can someone help with the bonus and explain to me what I'm doing?

I have an 11th (Pathfinder Monk), 5th (3.5) Psychic Warrior (BAB +3).

I have allowed a feat (actually chain of two feats) that allows this character to flurry with a glaive.

The glaive is +3 enhanced.

The character is Strength 20.

The character has a trait (from Unearthed Arcana) called Reckless which gives him a -1 to attacks for a trade of +1 to damage.

I want to figure the unarmed flurry first, then the glaive should just be an additional +3 to hit and damage (and uses it's own weapon damage).

Thanks!!! I think I understand this, but then the extra attack in the Flurry going from monk 10 to 11 just through me off...

I have the regular glaive attacks at +18/+13/+8. I think that is correct, I have the flurry attacks too high I believe.

The question big question is, what to do with the additional +3 BAB from the Psychic Warrior? Do you add that somewhere... (I would think so) if so, where? Do you add it to the Monk's FoB chart, or do you add it to the BAB of the Monk (which means you use the corresponding FoB chart for a Monk with the same BAB? Ugg.. Thanks for any help!

Aluvial

 

[Dingo333]

So here is the math I am doing, right or wrong, you can decide later

level 11 monk, 20 str, -1 att, +1 Dmg

Flurry should be: +13/+13/+8/+8/+3

with a damage of: 1d10+6

Add the Psychic Warrior (+3) you get +16/+16/+11/+11/+6

Change unarmed to glaive: +19/+19/+14/+14/+9

and damage: 1d10+1(trait)+3(enhancement)+5 or 8(not sure how your feat chain handles str bonus in this flurry, 5 if in 1 hand, 8 if in 2) for a total of 1d10+9-12

Do note that I have heard of DMs who will say your flurry bonus is JUST the listed bonus in the book, no STR or other classes BAB (I think this is wrong, but this is how some play it)

 

[EUBanana]

The question big question is, what to do with the additional +3 BAB from the Psychic Warrior? Do you add that somewhere... (I would think so)

Depends how harsh you are, after all FOB is just as if you had two weapon fighting.

However, "For the purpose of these attacks, the monks base attack bonus is equal to his monk level.", which is normally a bonus for a single classed monk, implies it might not if you were feeling cruel.

 

[billd91]

However, "For the purpose of these attacks, the monks base attack bonus is equal to his monk level.", which is normally a bonus for a single classed monk, implies it might not if you were feeling cruel.

You should add the BAB from the Psychic Warrior levels. The intent of the reference is that the BAB from monk levels is equal to his monk level. Any other BAB additions from other classes should be included as usual.

 

[Aluvial]

You should add the BAB from the Psychic Warrior levels. The intent of the reference is that the BAB from monk levels is equal to his monk level. Any other BAB additions from other classes should be included as usual.

I don't know what to do with it. The Paizo boards are a bit of a mess on the topic. They do have a post on there that you do indeed add the BAB of other classes, but I'm not sure where.

I'm almost thinking that the FoB is based on the BAB of the Monk + any other class, so that if you multiclass, then you just find the first instance of the combined BAB on the monk chart and then look over for the corresponding FoB. I see this based on the idea that a Monk 1, Fighter 19 still has the flurry of blows, and should have the best BAB.

So how about that. What does a a Monk 1, Fighter 15 with a 10 Strength get for FoB?

Aluvial

 

[billd91]

My take on cases like this is "Use your heads, everybody, and relax." Don't get hung up on the literal text because it's not always written clearly. How do you normally handle BAB? You normally add the BAB from all of the PC's classes. Why would you expect this to diverge from that without making it explicit?

Also, recognize that each class's description is written without any reference to multiclassing because that's pretty much just covered in the bits on multiclassing itself, so of course the monk's FoB is written as if the character just has monk levels.

 

[Dingo333]

So how about that. What does a a Monk 1, Fighter 15 with a 10 Strength get for FoB?

it would have 18/18/13/8/3
since gaining the 4th and 6th attacks are linked to your monk level you would need at least 15 monk to get all 7 attacks

At 8th level, the monk can make two additional attacks when he uses flurry of blows, as if using Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).

At 15th level, the monk can make three additional attacks using flurry of blows, as if using Greater Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).

You could just get the feats with your fighter levels, but you would need a 19 dex which the monk would get for free and whether they had the prereqs or not