My Brawler Fighter and how fellow players complain

If you were "more worried" about the guy chucking the pebble than you are about the rogue trying to stick a knife in your ribs then the rogue would be getting a bonus to hit and maybe damage. Instead the rock-thrower is acting as a distraction, which gives a -2 to attacks (and, perhaps, some additional issues).

A jester with a pig's bladder would also provide a suitable distraction, but would be rather sub-optimal to play :lol:
 

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I would accept your 'pebble' argument at face value if not for the fact that tossing rocks at people to harm them is one of the oldest forms of execution on the planet. It's called 'stoning.' Look it up!

At no point did the OP state his character was pulling out a packet of gravel. Stones or rocks can come in dangerous, skull crunching, but throwable, sizes. I can picture a downright gritty and bloody fight where one combatant, out of desperation, grabs a rock and tosses it at his assailant in hopes to brain him.

Isn't it a movie trope where tossing a rock at someone's head is used as a means to get their attention?

Pebbles. Gravel. I don't see those as weapons either. Fortunately that isn't what the OP was talking about, was it?
 

Oh, I don't know- sounds like RP of an introspective, aesthetically minded warrior...a "Death Artist," perhaps.

"I killed your father with my axe, I killed your brother with a stone. Thanatiope, the Muse of Death, has inspired me to complete your family's triptych of woe by slaying you with...a SHRUBBERY!"

"You'll kill us... with a soup cup?"
"Tea, actually."
"What's that?"
"I'll kill you with my tea cup."


I've actually really wanted to play the total improvised weapon master, ever since Martial Power 2 and Dark Sun and some Dragon articles made it very, very feasible... but unfortunately haven't had the chance.
 

At one point in the hilarious but short lived TV Show, The War Next Door, the good-guy character Kennedy Smith is described as knowing 700 ways to kill a man with a spoon. At the end of the episode, he looks at his spoon and says "701."
 


WOW

I really wasn't expecting this thread to go so far!
My fellow players and I talked and, to put simply, this has gone too far. We talked and worked out our differences in opinions and moved on.

In alot of ways I've really gone too far in posting personal emails and names on the internet and for that, I feel really bad. :blush:

Dude, YOU have nothing to feel bad about- if someone is being as much of a total douchebag as duder was, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with getting other people to check you and make sure it isn't actually you being the dick.

Also, when someone is treating you like garbage, you are not obligated to keep it to yourself. "It's just between you and me" is total BS in this case; it has to do with the whole group. Further, unless you agreed to keep the discussion between you and him, he's just trying to pull the old "your black eye is family business so just tell everyone you fell down the stairs" crap.

The reason he prolly doesn't want you to discuss it elsewhere is because he knows he was being a dick.
 

If that is the case I might allow it. But to routinely carry around a bunch of pebbles, rather than say several daggers, just to get a Mark at range seems a little daft. Further more I know it would in time annoy the hell out of most the players at my table. First because it would be a stupidly sub-optimal action and thus could lead to the party getting killed,

That's true. I don't think that we need to worry about that, though. It seems to me that the rest of the party taking the player's head off for being stupid in the middle of battle will serve as all the incentive needed to make him stop. Altering the rules to accomplish the same isn't really necessary.

and second, because really in a fight are you going to be more bothered by a pebble thrown by some fool across the battlefield or the rogue trying to stick a knife in your ribs from right in front of you.
Perhaps the pebble is accompanied by a few choice words regarding your mother and her social activities the previous evening.

I might allow pebble chucking as a daily or even and encounter at a push (IE: The conditions were just right for something as benign as a tap from a pebble to distract an enemy in mortal danger). But more frequently than that it would suspend my disbelief and spoil the game.
You mean that it would ruin your suspension of disbelief. But semantics aside, why? This is an entirely plausible situation - if comical. It seems silly to be so heavily invested in some imagined inviolate level of immersion that a character throwing a rock a few times spoils the whole game for you. Consider, perhaps, that maybe you're not supposed to be quite that immersed.

To use an all-too-apt metaphor, here: If you choose to build your suspension of disbelief out of fine, fragile glass crystal, I don't feel you have the right to complain when a thrown rock shatters it. You're playing D&D. Build it out of sterner stuff.

Fine if you use your pebble for one of those attacks, because they normally describe in what why you are marking without dealing damage, and normally they are encounters or daily powers.
That's not quite what I'm talking about.

Let's say that you're playing a Half-elf Fighter. You take Astral Seal (the non-damaging ranged Cleric at-will power) as your Dilettante encounter power. Let's say you then pick up Versatile Master, allowing you to use Astral Seal at-will. It doesn't deal damage, it's not necessarily a stupid option to use, and it still marks the target - not by virtue of the power itself, but because it's used by a Fighter.

What would be your reaction to this?
 
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he's just trying to pull the old "your black eye is family business so just tell everyone you fell down the stairs" crap.

The reason he prolly doesn't want you to discuss it elsewhere is because he knows he was being a dick.

I have to agree, and the analogy is apt.
 

You mean that it would ruin your suspension of disbelief. But semantics aside, why? This is an entirely plausible situation - if comical. It seems silly to be so heavily invested in some imagined inviolate level of immersion that a character throwing a rock a few times spoils the whole game for you. Consider, perhaps, that maybe you're not supposed to be quite that immersed.

To support this, just a few words:

Hellboy.

Agent Manning.

Throwing gears at Kroenen.
 


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