Converting "generic setting" Second Edition monsters

[Cleon]

The greater ones seem slightly worse than normal stone golems, so maybe CR 10. CR 3 is probably ok for the lesser ones.

These fellows don't have immunity to magic or slow, which are both quite powerful. They look more like a CR 9 to me.

For construction, I'm thinking more in the way of materials and Craft DCs, less in the way of magic. What do you think?

Well if we still have a few spell prereqs that would be acceptable, I suppose. We also need to include costs for a winding sprocket and its power-train, in case it needs multiple power outlets.

 

[freyar]

Reflexive sunder is pretty mean, too, though. I guess I could go for CR 9.

Yes, just not many spell prereqs.

 

[Cleon]

Reflexive sunder is pretty mean, too, though. I guess I could go for CR 9.

Hmm, yes it could make quite a difference to melee attackers.

Anyhow, I'm not dead set on the Challenge Rating yet. CR 10 might be a better fit.

Yes, just not many spell prereqs.

Such as?

 

[freyar]

Maybe just the usual limited wish. Wait, you're the one who wants spells involved.

I'd mostly just want X gp of fancy metals, etc.

 

[Cleon]

Maybe just the usual limited wish. Wait, you're the one who wants spells involved.

I was thinking limited wish and bull's strength could be enough.

I'd mostly just want X gp of fancy metals, etc.

I wasn't thinking it needs fancy metals, so much as lots of high-quality metal and relatively tricky Craft rolls. Not sure what Craft skill covers clockwork, though...

 

[freyar]

Trapmaking? Armorsmithing or Weaponsmithing maybe.

I can go with limited wish and bull's strength. Caster level 12 and maybe corresponding craft checks around 30ish?

 

[Cleon]

Trapmaking? Armorsmithing or Weaponsmithing maybe.

I can go with limited wish and bull's strength. Caster level 12 and maybe corresponding craft checks around 30ish?

Craft (trapmaking) seems the closest. It's basically an insanely complicated mechanical trap.

Since it'll resemble an animated suit or full plate, Armorsmithing would seem to fit better than Weaponsmithing.

So, we're talking high-DC Craft (trapmaking) plus Craft (armorsmithing) checks.

I'm tempted to make the trapmaking DC higher, since the mechanical innards are probably the most complicated elements.

That jars with the sample Constructions I can think of, which use the same DCs, but I don't mind being jarring.

 

[freyar]

Craft (trapmaking) DC 30 and Craft (armorsmithing) DC 25 work for you?

 

[Cleon]

Craft (trapmaking) DC 30 and Craft (armorsmithing) DC 25 work for you?

Sure!

 

[Shade]

Craft (trapmaking) DC 30 and Craft (armorsmithing) DC 25 work for you?

Works for me.