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[DrunkonDuty]

I like Red Cloak. This guy does evil well. No panto stupidity and twirling of moustache.

 

[wingsandsword]

Yup, ECL+8 or more.

Extended Summon Monster VII was the highest level spell we've seen him cast. So he's probably 15th or 16th level (presumably if he could throw 9th level spells, he would have used them at the Battle of Azure City, especially in the throne room battle).

While the typical resistance fighter was probably a 1st level Commoner or Warrior, and IIRC they had a few low-level Clerics, none of those would survive even a couple of rounds against a mid-teens level Cleric. Thanh's team is most of the higher-level members of the Resistance.

Since he's there alone, it does make me wonder if he's planning some kind of double-cross with the phylactery. He still needs Xykon for the "plan" but swapping out the phylactery for a decoy to give to Xykon, while keeping the actual one could be a way for him to throw the lich "under the bus" when he's no longer useful to his plan.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Extended Summon Monster VII was the highest level spell we've seen him cast. So he's probably 15th or 16th level (presumably if he could throw 9th level spells, he would have used them at the Battle of Azure City, especially in the throne room battle).

While the typical resistance fighter was probably a 1st level Commoner or Warrior, and IIRC they had a few low-level Clerics, none of those would survive even a couple of rounds against a mid-teens level Cleric. Thanh's team is most of the higher-level members of the Resistance.

I figure it's entirely possible that he's gotten a level or two since Azure City. After all, that's an awful lot of summoned help, and we've never seen him use actual outsiders, only a fiendish mammoth.

But, even with 8th-level spells "only," he'd've mopped the floor with the non-leveled resistance, and probably most of the levelled ones.

Since he's there alone, it does make me wonder if he's planning some kind of double-cross with the phylactery. He still needs Xykon for the "plan" but swapping out the phylactery for a decoy to give to Xykon, while keeping the actual one could be a way for him to throw the lich "under the bus" when he's no longer useful to his plan.

I figure it's much more prosaic; Xykon would be very, very upset to have the phylactery slip through his grasp, and he's already pissed at Redcloak for loosing the phylactery during V's assault on the tower. While he probably was willing to let the resistance do its thing (after all, the goblin empire has to sink or swim on its own), their taking the phylactery means he has to take the gloves off and unload on them, otherwise Xykon will likely eat him alive.

Though, he could be trying to run a fast one on Xykon. Though he may not have realized that *he* is expendable to Xykon, since Xykon has his own pet divine caster who worships the ground he walks on, and will happily run the ritual without needing to be placated. That may turn out very badly for Redcloak.

Or he could've just chosen today to kick in their door and deal with them. I imagine we'll find out next week.

Brad

 

[wingsandsword]

Though, he could be trying to run a fast one on Xykon. Though he may not have realized that *he* is expendable to Xykon, since Xykon has his own pet divine caster who worships the ground he walks on, and will happily run the ritual without needing to be placated. That may turn out very badly for Redcloak.

In which case, Xykon would really be surprised when the ritual would be cast. . .since Redcloak lied to Xykon about what exactly the ritual does. It doesn't give the casters control of the Snarl, it hands control of the Snarl over to The Dark One. Even if Redcloak dies or is replaced, if the ritual is cast by anyone, his plan still succeeds.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Extended Summon Monster VII was the highest level spell we've seen him cast. So he's probably 15th or 16th level (presumably if he could throw 9th level spells, he would have used them at the Battle of Azure City, especially in the throne room battle).

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Summon monster, or planar ally? The latter is available to clerics and is generally a better bet!

 

[wingsandsword]

Summon monster, or planar ally? The latter is available to clerics and is generally a better bet!

The spell he cast was explicitly said in dialogue to be Extended Summon Monster VII in Comic 451: Giant In the Playground Games

From the look of it, in that strip he summoned a Fiendish Mammoth, which while not on the standard list, would be equivalent to Celestial Elephant which is on the standard list.

Sadly, we don't know the level of his Titanium, Chlorine or Osmium elementals.

 

[SnowleopardVK]

I believe in OotS #579 there was a bit where Belkar guessed that Redcloak was 17th level, and probably the highest-levelled cleric in the OotS world. Of course that was just a guess, so we still don't have any actual proof of his level.

 

[Plane Sailing]

The spell he cast was explicitly said in dialogue to be Extended Summon Monster VII in Comic 451: Giant In the Playground Games

From the look of it, in that strip he summoned a Fiendish Mammoth, which while not on the standard list, would be equivalent to Celestial Elephant which is on the standard list.

Sadly, we don't know the level of his Titanium, Chlorine or Osmium elementals.

True, but I'm thinking about the summoning of those various devils - I ink planar ally makes more sense for those and is certainly within his capabilities.

 

[Orius]

In our world osmium is $400/oz. I wouldn't call a huge elemental made out of it cheap.

It is also I believe the densest of the metallic elements, so therefore the elementals can probably do a great deal of damage with their fists. This is what I mean by Redcloak fighting cheap.