BOEF Errata/Updates?

Loren Pechtel · Feb 5, 2012

Samloyal23 said:
So far, the most broken thing I have seen in the book is the spell Beauty's Caress. A Feykissed character with 20 levels in Imagist could use the maximize feat with this spell in and have an Appearance score of 65. I think that is a tad high...

How do you get that high??

Alzrius · Feb 5, 2012

Loren Pechtel said:
How do you get that high??

I'm curious about that too.

If you start with a character with an Appearance of 18 (presuming a base score of 18 and no racial bonus), and have it be a juvenile for an additional +2 Appearance for its age (though how it's still this young and 20th level is rather suspect), then add +2 for being a feykissed creature, add in +5 from the ability points you get once every four levels, and another +5 inherent bonuses from wishes or miracles, with a +20 from a maximized beauty's caress, that's still only a 52.

Samloyal23 · Feb 5, 2012

Alzrius said:
I'm curious about that too.

If you start with a character with an Appearance of 18 (presuming a base score of 18 and no racial bonus), and have it be a juvenile for an additional +2 Appearance for its age (though how it's still this young and 20th level is rather suspect), then add +2 for being a feykissed creature, add in +5 from the ability points you get once every four levels, and another +5 inherent bonuses from wishes or miracles, with a +20 from a maximized beauty's caress, that's still only a 52.

A beauty's caress adds 1d4 per 2 caster levels. If you have 20 caster levels that's 10d4. Maximized, that 10X4, +40. Add that to the 25 a feykissed character can have just by reaching level 20, you get 65. Throw in wishes and you can get to 70 App. Basically you make Aphrodite look like a mutt...

Alzrius · Feb 5, 2012

Samloyal23 said:
A beauty's caress adds 1d4 per 2 caster levels. If you have 20 caster levels that's 10d4.

You forgot the part of the spell that says it's capped at 5d4. B-)

Samloyal23 · Feb 6, 2012

Alzrius said:
You forgot the part of the spell that says it's capped at 5d4.

Aah, missed that. Still, what other spell lets you add +20 to an attribute? Switch that to Strength and you can use an ogre as a golf club. And it affects BOTH Charisma and Appearance. I'm thinking this is way too powerful to be a level 3 spell. Fixes?

Alzrius · Feb 6, 2012

Samloyal23 said:
I'm thinking this is way too powerful to be a level 3 spell. Fixes?

I honestly think that the best fix for this spell is out-and-out deletion. It violates a number of principles of spell design in 3.5, such as the sheer amount of power it gives for its level (this is the big one), as well as that spells that enhance ability scores don't roll for the amount of the bonus they grant any more (they did in 3.0, but not 3.5).

Seriously, it's much better to just delete this spell; peacock's beauty already does enough in regards to what this spell wants to do (bonus to Appearance).

Samloyal23 · Feb 7, 2012

Aside from the Rake not being a core class I like the classes in this book, they make sense from a role-playing stand. Anyone see any problems with them? Any faves?

Samloyal23 · Sep 18, 2020

So, it's been a few years, any updates for 4E, Pathfinder, or 5E?

dave2008 · Sep 18, 2020

Samloyal23 said:
So, it's been a few years, any updates for 4E, Pathfinder, or 5E?

I found this kickstarter for 5e: Erotic Adventures. The campaign is complete, but I don't think the book is available yet. Sounds like it might be what your looking for. You could email the creator and see if you can join the campaign.

I also found this: The 5e Guide to Sex