Bite attack and Flurry of blows?

[Uber Dungeon]

The character I am about to play is a werewolf/Monk. Since a bite attack is a natural weapon could it be used as part of a flurry of blows?
Also if so, I assume it would deal the amount of damage of the bite attack Rather then unarmed damage.
thoughts?

 

[Dandu]

Cannot be used as part of flurry of blows. Can be used after the flurry, due to rules on how natural weapons work. You make an attack after your flurry that takes a -5 penalty, reduced to -2 with multiattack iirc.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

IIRC, by the exact wording of flurry, it's debatable if you can string anything onto the end of a flurry at all, because monks really do suck that badly apparently. In any case, you can use unarmed strike full attack as a "manufactured weapon" and then use all natural weapons as 2ndary natural attacks (-5 to hit, half str mod to damage). I just don't know if you can with a flurry of misses specifically. I'd allow it, of course...

 

[irdeggman]

Cannot be used as part of flurry of blows. Can be used after the flurry, due to rules on how natural weapons work. You make an attack after your flurry that takes a -5 penalty, reduced to -2 with multiattack iirc.

I don't believe this is correct.

A flurry of blows attack is a full attack action - which means no other attacks can be combined with it.

 

[Buugipopuu]

I don't believe this is correct.

A flurry of blows attack is a full attack action - which means no other attacks can be combined with it.

Flurry of blows adds to the full attack action, rather than replacing it. So anything else that modifies the full attack action also works. What is preventing monks from Biting in a Flurry is that Bite isn't a Special Monk Weapon, and so can't be used during a flurry. But I'd allow it anyway, since unless the player is a Hydra, the extra bite is unlikely to be worth more than whatever they spent to get it. There's a feat in Pathfinder that lets you treat a single natural weapon as an Unarmed Strike for the purpose of any ability that can only be performed with Unarmed Strikes. It's pretty fun with monsters, but it's very not official 3.5 material.

 

[kitcik]

Cannot be used as part of flurry of blows. Can be used after the flurry, due to rules on how natural weapons work. You make an attack after your flurry that takes a -5 penalty, reduced to -2 with multiattack iirc.

Not that I am in love with the FAQ, but it agrees with [MENTION=85158]Dandu[/MENTION]

Can a monk who has natural weapon attacks (such as a centaur monk) attack unarmed and still use his natural weapons? For example, let’s say he’s a 4th-level monk. Can he use a flurry of blows and attack at +5/+5/+0 unarmed (plus other bonuses) and then at +0/+0 for 2 hooves?
If the creature normally is allowed to make both weapon attacks and natural weapon attacks as part of the same full attack routine, the monk can do the same (making unarmed strikes in place of weapon attacks). Since a centaur can make two hoof attacks in addition to his longsword attack, a centaur monk can make two hoof attacks in addition to his unarmed strike attack (or attacks, depending on his base attack bonus). The monk can’t use his natural weapon attacks as part of a flurry of blows, but he can make natural weapon attacks in addition to his flurry. Such attacks suffer the same –2 penalty as the monk’s flurry attacks in addition to the normal –5 penalty for secondary natural attacks.
An 4th-level centaur monk has a base attack bonus of +7 (+4 from his 4 monstrous humanoid Hit Dice, and +3 from his 8 monk levels). If he performs a flurry of blows, he makes three unarmed strikes, at +5/+5/+0. He can add two hoof attacks at –2/–2 (–5 as secondary weapons, and –2 from the flurry).

 

[Samloyal23]

If you want your werewolf monk to use bite during a flurry you have to develop a martial art that includes bite attacks based on the inhuman physiology of the wolf body...

 

[Dandu]

Wolf Fang Fist!

 

[Samloyal23]

I assume it would deal the amount of damage of the bite attack Rather then unarmed damage.

That depends on the feat and the damage done by the style. But I can see an intentionally brutal style that uses a bite as a form of grapple that does continual damage or that opens a bleeding wound or rips out a tendon to disable an arm or leg. It also makes a difference if the user of the fighting style has a natural bite attack like a lycanthrope or must train up to turn a non-lethal bite into something harmful...

 

[kitcik]

I assume it would deal the amount of damage of the bite attack Rather then unarmed damage.

RAW Yes.