Permanent Portable Magnificent Mansion?

[RUMBLETiGER]

If you are lawful, use the Enveloping Pit (as mentioned perviously). Save 16,400 GP and get MORE space. MIC p 159.

Yeah, NG unfortunately. The Enveloping Pit is pretty awesome. 10'x10'x50' would rock, that's like a small wizard's tower.

 

[Greenfield]

1st ed. was terrible at describing volumes. The original Transmute Rock to Mud had it's volume described as "2 inch cube per level", with "inch" meaning 10 feet.

The wording was so vague that it could mean a 20 foot cube per level, or a cube of 20 feet x level on a side.

That meant that a 10th level caster could transmute either a volume of 80,000 cubic feet or 8,000,000 cubic feet, depending on how you read it. Either way, we referred to that one as "Slay Castle", since it didn't have the restrictions about worked stone.

When The Sage wrote that that meant 2 1-inch cubes (an inch still meaning 10 feet), everybody scratched their heads. 80k cubic feet was the best reading, with 8 million being a stretch, but there was no way to read the description and come up with his answer.

 

[anest1s]

Yeah, NG unfortunately. The Enveloping Pit is pretty awesome. 10'x10'x50' would rock, that's like a small wizard's tower.

You could try to emulate an alignment with use magic device, if you don't roll a 1

 

[kitcik]

Yeah, NG unfortunately. The Enveloping Pit is pretty awesome. 10'x10'x50' would rock, that's like a small wizard's tower.

Use that as a base to craft / buy one with a NG alignment restriction?

 

[Samloyal23]

And the idea of having the opening to a permanent Magnificent Mansion set in a piece of cloth is a nice one, but as far as I know the opening isn't actually attached to anything normally. It's a point in space. If it happens to coincide with a piece of cloth (or any other solid object) that's a coincidence. The item can move, but the opening will stay where it was, since its anchor is a point in space, not the object.

Meh, I do not see any reason you cannot design a magic item that incorporates a Magnificent Mansion into its own structure. What is the real difference between that and a Bag of Holding? You are dealing with a magically generated transdimensional space in both cases. The item in effect creates the portal. Move the item and the portal moves. Without this ability you creating a HUGE limitation on the functionality of this spell and for what reason? A magic carpet with a built-in transdimensional mansion can be part cruise ship/part troop transport. Imagine how many soldiers could fit in one. What despot would not want one?

 

[Luce]

2e:
Bag of travel. Appears in Dungeon Magazine 78 in the adventure "Unexpected guests"

3e:
There was a magnificent mansion style doll house in Dragon magazines 299, page 66 "Wizard's toy box"

 

[Samloyal23]

OMG... Just had a thought... If you had a flying carpet troop carrier and a wand of feather fall, you could turn your soldiers into paratroopers. You could easily drop a squad of soldiers behind a castle wall or deep in enemy territory. With invisibility they could land unnoticed and start sabotaging the enemy before engaging in combat...

 

[Gray Lensman]

Snipped.... A magic carpet with a built-in transdimensional mansion can be part cruise ship/part troop transport. Imagine how many soldiers could fit in one. What despot would not want one?

Posted at 3:52 PM

OMG... Just had a thought... If you had a flying carpet troop carrier and a wand of feather fall, you could turn your soldiers into paratroopers. You could easily drop a squad of soldiers behind a castle wall or deep in enemy territory. With invisibility they could land unnoticed and start sabotaging the enemy before engaging in combat...

Posted at 5:33 PM

What took you so long.
I got it when I first read the post.
Or maybe it is just that you can take the Soldier out of the Airborne but you can't take the AIRBORNE out of the Soldier.

Someone please XP this guy for me!

 

[Samloyal23]

Posted at 3:52 PM



Posted at 5:33 PM

What took you so long.
I got it when I first read the post.
Or maybe it is just that you can take the Soldier out of the Airborne but you can't take the AIRBORNE out of the Soldier.

Someone please XP this guy for me!

Thanks, I appreciate it. Flying mansions have all kinds of uses, not just aerial either. A carpet full of troops would make a good trojan horse, too...

 

[Greenfield]

Meh, I do not see any reason you cannot design a magic item that incorporates a Magnificent Mansion into its own structure. What is the real difference between that and a Bag of Holding? You are dealing with a magically generated transdimensional space in both cases. The item in effect creates the portal. Move the item and the portal moves. Without this ability you creating a HUGE limitation on the functionality of this spell and for what reason? A magic carpet with a built-in transdimensional mansion can be part cruise ship/part troop transport. Imagine how many soldiers could fit in one. What despot would not want one?

You can make a magic item, of course. The spell, as written, however, doesn't lend itself to the plan suggested: Make it Permanent with the entrance on a piece of cloth.

Now, as far as "create an item" is concerned, it already exists.

Instant Fortress: This metal cube is small, but when activated by speaking a command word it grows to form a tower 20 feet square and 30 feet high, with arrow slits on all sides and a crenellated battlement atop it. The metal walls extend 10 feet into the ground, rooting it to the spot and preventing it from being tipped over. The fortress has a small door that opens only at the command of the owner of the fortress—even knock spells can’t open the door.
The adamantine walls of instant fortress have 100 hit points and hardness 20. The fortress cannot be repaired except by a wish or a miracle, which restores 50 points of damage taken.
The fortress springs up in just 1 round, with the door facing the device’s owner. The door opens and closes instantly at his command. People and creatures nearby (except the owner) must be careful not to be caught by the fortress’s sudden growth.
Anyone so caught takes 10d10 points of damage (Reflex DC 19 half ).
The fortress is deactivated by speaking a command word (different from the one used to activate it). It cannot be deactivated unless it is empty.