Pathfinder 1E Speculation, it probably won't happen.. regarding the next edition of pathfinder.

[Evenglare]

Okay, so I wanted to see if I was the only one who noticed/thought about this... with the release of the ultimate equipment I kind of have the sense that eventually pathfinder will come out with an updated .... edition? Version? I dont know what to call it, but I do think it will feature this new formatting we have been seeing with the beginner's box, and ultimate equipment. It has a completely different presentation from the previous books.

Has anyone thought about this ? It seems that they are moving toward a more...eh... concise formatting? What do you think?

 

[mach1.9pants]

With the Monk furore going on at the Paizo boards ATM and the stated goal to basically totally redo the Monk for the next reprint, maybe the next reprint will be a change from the original format? I doubt it but it doesn't mean that new hardbacks won't stick with the BBox format.
It is just too much work for little gain, also why cause a possible divide in the fan base by doing it?

 

[Evenglare]

well... i dont necessarily think it would divide the fanbase seeing as it would be essentially the same rules just presented in their new format. Anyway, it was just a thought. Also could you link to the monk thing, I haven't seen any of that .

 

[Dark Mistress]

Paizo has said it will be awhile before they do any type of rules update. They have said their focus is on campaign material and adventures primarily. My personal speculation is we will see Pathfinder 2e at the 10 year mark or in 7 more years. Which means we should see the playtest in about 6 more years.

 

[Jester David]

with the release of the ultimate equipment I kind of have the sense that eventually pathfinder will come out with an updated .... edition? Version? I dont know what to call it, but I do think it will feature this new formatting we have been seeing with the beginner's box, and ultimate equipment. It has a completely different presentation from the previous books.

Has anyone thought about this ? It seems that they are moving toward a more...eh... concise formatting? What do you think?

The formatting is sweet.
It would be neat to have a revised Core rulebook with much tighter and improved formatting.

This is the exact kind of thing that lead to 3.5e and 4e Essentials.
The catch is, Paizo - like Wizards of the Coast - is staffed by writers and game designers. Game designers design games. It's their nature. If Paizo decided to release a revised version of the game, they'll quite likely want to take the opportunity to improve some classes and options, tweaking the game.
This would be bad.

You want people to want to buy the books again, not to feel like they have to.

With the Monk furore going on at the Paizo boards ATM and the stated goal to basically totally redo the Monk for the next reprint, maybe the next reprint will be a change from the original format?

I'm not familiar with that. Can you provide a link?

 

[mach1.9pants]

Well Paizo is the worst forum for finsing stuff but here is a complaints thread and in it there are links to all the points about Monks needing to be re-designed from the ground up not just plaster-over-cracks-with-equipment fixed. Posts by Paizo staff. There are heaps of threads on it, I even saw an "I am sick of the monks threads' thread yesterday.

paizo.com - Paizo Products: Lack of Monk Gear in Ultimate Equipment

It is there if you want to trawl through 470 posts!

 

[Jester David]

The more I think of this, the more I think it'd be a good idea in a couple years and the more I think it won't happen.

There are a number of changes that could be made to the game. Small, tiny revisions and larger clarifications. Fixing the monk, revising stealth, incorporating the errata, etc.
There is some content and options in the Advanced Player's Guide and Ultimate Combat that pretty much should be core. Things like traits, archetypes, the extra CMB options, and alternate racial traits could be worked into the core rules, becoming a tighter part of the game.

At the same time, it might be good to split the Core book into a much smaller Player book and a GM book. Even with the Beginner's Box, the Core Rulebook is daunting and huge.

This won't happen in 2013. We know all the books for that year. We have Ultimate Campaigns and Mythic Adventures.
2014 would be the year then.

However, that's the year of 5e and we still don't know what Paizo's plan with 5th Edition is, or how WotC is going to handle that edition's OGL/GSL.
If 5e is everything it can be (or even half) it might really steal Pathfinder's thunder, really pulling players away from Paizo. This might not be a bad thing, freeing Paizo to just focus on what they want to do, what they do best: adventure paths and the Golarion world.
Even if Paizo doesn't decide to refocus Pathfinder and keep supporting that game, releasing a competing product in the same years as the new D&D game is ballsy at best and foolish at worst. You just can't compete with the D&D core rulebooks.

 

[RangerWickett]

At the very least, I figure they'll wait to see if 5e D&D crashes and burns. No need to rock the boat now.

 

[Ahnehnois]

Given that the main strengths of PF are 3.5 compatibility and the OGL, it would be very interesting to see what happened if they let go of strength number 1 (given their actions so far, it seems likely they would remain open).

That being said, I don't know how confident I am that they would succeed at making a better game.

 

[Evenglare]

I just recieved my Rise of the Runelords Anniversary book today and it seems to have a similar formatting. Let me be clear that is what this topic is referencing, a revision of the core book with the new formatting they seem to be using. I'm not saying one way or the other if they should incorporate a new monk class or whatever.