People can behave awfully toward one another. Singling out the reasons is an effort in futility. Those same kids might get harassed or bullied for any number of reasons. I'm not advocating bullying in any way or saying that people should accept being abused as part of "doing it right." If I came off as anything close to that in my previous post I fully apologize for that. No one should ever have a hand laid on them in anger. What I AM saying in this post is that Big Bang Theory t-shirts are just as likely to draw negative attention as wearing any other geek culture shirt. That show doesn't advocate for bullying anymore than Captain Kirk does.
For me, singling out the reasons is the start of making them disappear. I don't believe we can just duck and hope they'll pass. It's just me.. I'm an activist!
That's unnecessary prodding there bub. Let's not start spinning intention or opinions of other people into gruesome shapes. I honestly get sick in the stomach when I hear about people being physically bullied. I wouldn't wish that on another person.
Apologies if that came the wrong way.
What I meant is that not everyone reacts or feels in the same way towards the same thing. Some people can react to insults much more easily than others, and find them a lot less painful, and my interpretation is that you have a thicker skin for insults, whereas other people might not.
I really wasn't trying to be mean to you or anything.
This isn't really something that can be debated though. One person's "omg load up my DVR" show is another person's "why would anyone watch this?" I still think it is fine to not like Big Bang Theory, the IT Crowd, The Guild or any other show that doesn't seem to be written well to you or portraying the culture properly to you.
To some degree that is correct. It is true that nothing guarantees what will pander to our tastes or not, but it is undeniable that some things are better written than others. Whether you want to have them in your library or not is a different matter altogether!
Again, people will act poorly. I'm not suggesting that you need to stand for being insulted. I
am saying that people will insult you regardless of what you do in life or what you like or what you watch or what they watch or read or hear. Take it as it comes, and react as you will. But does the fault lie at the feet of the pop cultural entities that supply these new lines of derision? I don't personally think so. I think the problem lies between the insulter and the insultee. Not the subject matter of their negative interaction. I'm a bald dude...people could insult me for being a truly hairless ape...I'm not going to ask that Lex Luther be shown with hair because I tire of the comparison. If the comment bothers me I'll address the source of the comment...not the comment itself. Again, I'm not trying to debase your opinions Leviatham. You've just brought up an interesting topic so I got all chattery in the fingers
Dude... you got chattery at the fingers? You're talking to the guy who started the thread... imagine how I was!
And I don't think you're trying to debase my opinions or anything, but you've engaged in civilised conversation and I feel the need to reciprocate. I'm polite like that...
True that people will act poorly. There will always be idiots everywhere and we'll never be able to help that one. And you're right that it is regardless of what we read, wear or watch. However...
What is more likely to happen, that you get insulted for wearing a BBT t-shirt, or that you're insulted for looking like Lex Luthor?
What is the metric of that respect though? If you want your hobbies to be seen as having the same worth as another person's obsession with Fantasy Football leagues that won't translate across the board. There will be people that see either thing as a "waste of time." I guess that's more where I was coming from. I wasn't trying to insinuate that you want to be bowed down to like Alice Cooper in Waynes World (though that would be awesome, not gonna lie). My Ivory Tower comment was overly flippant. Like I said...I got chattery
For me the metric of respect is the same metric that hobbies like fishing or football have. Have you seen anyone laughing at someone wearing a baseball shirt? They might get insulting for what shirt they wear, but not because is a baseball one. Baseball has more respect.
Tell people you're going to a sports event and people will think it's normal. Tell them you're going to a wargames or RPG convention and the chances of getting funny looks is higher.
I would like that not to be the case...
I'm all for more and better. I'm just not sure we'll agree on whether or not the journey to more and better is just as good as actually being more and better...yeah that confused the cripes out of me too but I'm leaving it there because untangling that comment may either drive people mad or give them super powers.
Cheers mate,
Supes
The journey is certainly not better tan being more and better. It never is. Ask the feminist movement. They're going through the hell of a journey even to this day.
But is we can make the journey better by adding air conditioning, leather seats and sat-nav to the vehicle... Much nicer journey!