Falling Icicle
Adventurer
That doesn't mean it shouldn't be simpler. That's like making a 5 hour movie, and saying "well, it's a lot shorter than Lord of the Rings, even if you're just talking about the theatrical editions."
Or, you could say that Next without things like Skills and Feats, is like a 30 minute mini-movie, and all I'm asking for is a full length feature film.