Pathfinder 1E What's stopping the gods of evil from creating angels of their own?

[VelvetViolet]

Most of the fiendish races generally look out for themselves or serve god-like fiends (archdevils, demon lords, horsemen of the apocalypse, thanatoic titans, etc), but none of the non-fiendish evil gods really seem to have dedicated servitor outsider races. Would it not make sense that the gods of evil would simply create angels that are born evil (not fallen) but loyal to them, a la 4e? The "dark angels" don't need to even look stereotypically evil, they could just look like good angels (i.e. gorgeous) except dressed like a heavy metal band or something.

 

[Crothian]

Why a heavy metal band look? I always have my evil angels dress like a barber shop quartet.

 

[Lalato]

No, no, no, no, NO! They would dress like Purple Rain era Prince. It is written in the great big book of religious evildom and tomfoolery.

On a more serious note. It's more interesting if they all dressed the same, and you couldn't tell good from evil just by looking at them.

 

[evileeyore]

On a more serious note. It's more interesting if they all dressed the same, and you couldn't tell good from evil just by looking at them.

Wait, the Angels won't be color coded for my convenience?

/ragequit

 

[Voadam]

but none of the non-fiendish evil gods really seem to have dedicated servitor outsider races.

Asmodeus has ALL the devils working for him.

Lamashtu has tons of demon servitors.

So you are thinking of Urgathoa (goddess of undeath), not knowing who serves Norgorber the evil god of secrets, the Qllipoth destruction beast Rovagug, and Zon Kuthon the corrupted from good cenobite story guy.

Thinking about it the only neutral god I know of with a dedicated outsider servitor race is Pharasma with psychopomps.

 

[VelvetViolet]

Asmodeus has ALL the devils working for him.

Lamashtu has tons of demon servitors.

They are both fiends that achieved godhood, as opposed to being born that way. Their legions were inherited from their pre-deity days.

 

[Voadam]

They are both fiends that achieved godhood, as opposed to being born that way. Their legions were inherited from their pre-deity days.

I believe Asmodeus has been a god since the beginning of the multiverse in Golarion lore. In 4e he was an angel originally and killed a god to ascend, but in Book of the Damned Volume 1 he's claimed to be one of the first two beings similar to in 2e's Book of Hell.

Lamashtu's story explicitly has her killing a god and consuming his divintity to fuel her own.

 

[evileeyore]

... not knowing who serves Norgorber the evil god of secrets...

Which just makes sense.

 

[VelvetViolet]

I believe Asmodeus has been a god since the beginning of the multiverse in Golarion lore.

He more or less created the devils. Other gods of evil don't have that luxury.

 

[Tovec]

In the old days I used to run it that they could, but those evil things aren't angels. They might have technically been devils but I never really put too much effort into it. But I did colour code for my convenience, even had neutral "angels" for the neutral gods. But even in those days I preferred non-angels for ALL my gods. Lawful gods having lawful outsiders (made my own ), good and evil gods using the spectrum of the alignment. For chaotic gods I never had any substitute - they could chose from the CE and CG ones depending on their preference but in general I ran them as too chaotic to use legions like the other gods.

These days I run it differently. Good gods use angels (well technically not angels, but a stand-in, a "good only" outsider). Evil gods use undead. This is how I make undead evil in my setting, they are literal servants of evil deities. They are tools certainly but I'm quite happy about the twisting of the soul turning innocent souls evil but not outsider just undead evil.