Crothian
First Post
You really like to create the strawman argument.
They do need to do something: To be treated like an adult you have to act like an adult. Respect is earned, no one said it was difficult to acquire though.
D&D 5E Array v 4d6: Punishment? Or overlooked data
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You really like to create the strawman argument.
They do need to do something: To be treated like an adult you have to act like an adult. Respect is earned, no one said it was difficult to acquire though.
How many human beings do you know? How many bullies? How many of them are human?
I ask because I see that kind of reaction all the time, almost daily. It isn't the majority or anywhere close to the norm, but it certainly is common enough. I'm not defending it, but it is part of the panoply of humanity's options in such a situation.
And in honesty, sometimes unhappiness IS the fault of the complainant. When it is, it isn't bullying to call that to their attention.
To provide a non-controversial example: my Mom HATES shows like Entertainment Tonight. She will loudly complain about the sordid details revealed in report after report; about how someone dressed "sluttily", etc.
...all while the TV remote is sitting inches away from her, and nobody gives a darn what is on TV because we're all doing something that demands more attention. Not that we watch ET either.
Believe me, I have no qualms about telling my Mom to "change the channel because absolutely nobody wants to hear" her gripe about a show nobody cares about.
She is not having fun, but it is nobody's fault but her own, and telling her so is not bullying.
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GMforPowergamers
Legend
I tried to come up with an answer, but the best I got was lots.
about a dozen when I was in school way long ago, that boss once, the two guys at the bar, my best friend for years, and the comic book guy, oh and that woman from my last job... so about 20 I would say... give or take, but most of them I assume grew out of it.
all of them...
wow really?
I would think not, I have gone entire years of my life without running into true bullies... atleast ones that speak openly....
sometimes maybe, but not most of the time... and the problem is in this thread people have been pretty mean about saying that a problem being addressed is "Only you having sour grapes"
weather you are correct or not it doesn't stop it from being bulling... in fact being wrong about something doesn't make it less bullying either...
yea the problem with this analogy is if you change your stats "AKA change the channel" no one on the other side will say "Ok..."
my first post here way back before the necro talked about how in a pathfinder game I just took the stats I wanted... I didn't lie or even have the best stats, and I knew others did the same but lied and said they rolled...
but would you be fine with "Just take the stats you want then?"
I don't belive that is bullying either... but if it was the only day you saw her and your answer was "If you are too XXXX to like it you can leave" that would be bullying
GMforPowergamers
Legend
are you jokeing everything you have said for pages has been a strawman...
here is that strawman of yours again... what is it that you don't understand... no one is NOT ACTING LIKE AN ADULT.... it is perfectly fine to as an adult be reasnolbe and say "Hey I don't like this game I'm feeling really over shadowed..."
Ranes
Adventurer
It may well be "reasnolbe" for adults to assert their maturity by writing it in block capitals.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
isn't the reason to write in block capitals to emphasize a point? how is that not adult? I don't understand, should I have underlined it instead?
GMforPowergamers
Legend
ok, How would you stress something that you felt was being ignored in a previous post?
I've played in games like that, so yes. My oft repeated anecdote about a 1Ed human fighter named Bear?* He had maxed out physical stats, and 6's in the mental stats. Fun character, and not just 'cause he kicked ass in combat, but equally because he was a blast to RP out of it. His death in combat was a major event in the campaign, and it was precipitated entirely by the way his mental stats shaped the RP aspects of the character.
If everyone else in the room were watching the show with interest, no, that would not be bullying. Terse, perhaps, but not bullying. Bullying would be her making a big enough fuss that the channel got changed away from what others were watching.
Telling someone "no" with the addendum that they can leave the area/group, etc. if that denial is not to their liking isn't bullying. Nor would pointing out that one's displeasure is at least partially their own fault because of decisions they have made. Because bullying is about power and control to the detriment of another. It is an intentional inflicting of distress upon another being in order to please the bully.
* See second post
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?249719-The-Heroic-Death
Maybe you should stop focusing on typography then and start focusing on topic?
Whether you agree or disagree with him, your point is way off base.
The fact that some people consider those of us who like to "min/max" as immature gamers is insulting enough as it is, without the need for peoples typography to be associated with maturity.
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