D&D 3E/3.5 Thoughts of a 3E/4E powergamer on starting to play 5E

[lowkey13]

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[Caliban]

Not intended to be disparaging but I view the above quote as rather skewed and biased.

And yet you achieved it anyway. You are welcome to your opinions, I'll stick with mine. They were formed over 30+ years of playing D&D in both home games, the RPGA (Raven's Bluff, Living Greyhawk, Living Forgotten Realms, and now Adventurer's League), Living Arcanis, and the Pathfinder Society). I've seen many styles of play, and started off as primarily a "play to win" power gamer and now choose to identify as a power gamer who enjoys roleplaying. Powergaming in and of itself isn't the issue, but rather the way you approach the game.

 

[thecasualoblivion]

Speaking of just plain wrong comments, I will counterpoint this comment (I only swoop in as the savior when everyone else is getting their butts kicked because I'm awesome like that) and casualoblivion's comment (I kick all the butt in combats, and I'm also the face of the party for social encounters because it's just in my wheelhouse even though I lack the stats and skills to do so, unlike the shlubs) with the repeated comments of other people telling you, no, thank you, please take Awesome McSnowflake and save a different party, please.

It's not that we don't want you to have fun. We just are having a different kind of fun. 'Kay?

You speak of misrepresenting people and then you do just that.

It's not that you don't want us to have fun, you just want us to have fun someplace else, possibly playing something other than your game.

 

[Mathilda]

Uh, what?

Point. X spell does the most damage to a single target.
Counterpoint. Y spell is better for multiple targets.

Anyway, I could care less about your personal experiences (see also, the unreliable narrator). The issue is that you are saying that other people are just plain wrong based on their personal experiences, and, moreover, it is apparent they have a great deal more personal experience.

If you enjoy optimizing, keep on keeping on. There is no badwrongfun. Just don't insist a table has to play your style. Not all of us are drawing on our wealth of 4e savior experiences.

Did you even read my reply to that poster...

I wrote that he was wrong based on what he posted and his assumptions

I thought I plainly spelled out that I am not included in his stereotypes of powergamers by describing how I play the game.

My comment as to his experiences and lack thereof is based on his above observations which can only lead one to believe his experience is limited even though the claim of DMing for over many decades.

To me... it is like someone posting stating that the "world is flat" because experience tells that it is. That translates to, that person has not read, gone to computer etc to see the overwhelming evidence that the world is round

 

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[UngeheuerLich]

Why are you arguing at all? There are many ways to have fun with D&D. I just lost a group because player expectation and DM expectation didn't fit together well enough.
One player expected to win all the time. I expected as DM that PCs adjucate the situation and flee or use other tactics than just go in and fight.
Neither one or the other playstyle is wrong, but better find different tables to play.

About the PC wants to do everything without asking... difficult in a game about imagination. The only way to have you not ask is limiting yourself to a gaming board or tiles and accept that you resolve battles with a board game. Creative use of the terrain is limited. Instead you use it tactically and may use options presented to you at the beginning of the fight.

I don't want to start that as a PC you never have all informations and that the DM always wins if he wants to. Easiest way is to just build npcs as PCs and use the sme broken combos everyone uses. And because the enemies have only one big fight, they will always win.

 

[Mathilda]

And yet you achieved it anyway. You are welcome to your opinions, I'll stick with mine. They were formed over 30+ years of playing D&D in both home games, the RPGA (Raven's Bluff, Living Greyhawk, Living Forgotten Realms, and now Adventurer's League), Living Arcanis, and the Pathfinder Society). I've seen many styles of play, and started off as primarily a "play to win" power gamer and now choose to identify as a power gamer who enjoys roleplaying. Powergaming in and of itself isn't the issue, but rather the way you approach the game.

You do see where you contradict yourself?

If not, then we are at an impasse and I am done

 

[Mathilda]

I apologize if I mistook your comments for those of someone else. Could you point out where I was mistaken? Let me help-
A. Didn't you call other gamers who did not optimize, "shlubs?"
B. Didn't you state that you were usually the face of your party for social interactions, despite the fact that you optimized for combat and didn't have social skills or ability scores?
C. Didn't you state that your preferred enjoyment was kicking the butt in combat (most of the butt, if not all)?

Again, I read posts quickly so I apologize for any misattribution. And no, I would love for you to play 5e. However I do not believe I would enjoy playing 5e with you, as I occasionally enjoy social encounters and I enjoy having my own portion of said butt to kick.

Nope... TCO did not, I did

To B and C... TCO did

 

[lowkey13]

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[lowkey13]

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