D&D 5E Anyone else think the Bard concept is just silly?

[Brandegoris]

just not buying that explanation, beware of falling in a thorn bush magic will never ever heal you.

The idea that high level characters reflexively resist external magic messing with their life force or invading their body explains natural healing being efficient and advancing need for much more or bigger singular healing magics well enough for me.

Whatever works for you and your group

 

[Garthanos]

Whatever works for you and your group

correct answer actually, ie the narrative is defined by players.


I didnt mention that the Dragon swipes high level fighter 1 wound still takes chugging all them energy drinks
in story still the same wound the low level got from some goblins spear slash but stupid amounts of healing magic.

 

[Brandegoris]

And then there was the silly bard..........

 

[rgoodbb]

Actually, I’m about to start playing a bard, and what you describe as silly, I’m going to embrace, own and absolutely freakin' revel in.

My bard plays a fiddle to lull the enemy and then with a crash strike of bow on strings, casts thunderwave and then with well-timed disjointed harsh squeaks and squeals causes her enemies bane, and with a soft melody casts suggestion. She 100 percent holds and uses/plays her focus instrument. And d’ya know what? I think she’s totally awesome.

I do however understand that some may not get the appeal. But as long as everyone else at the table (DM included) doesn’t care/mind too much, then..........That’s my Bard ……Yeah!

 

[mneme]

True Thomas laid his harp away,
And louted low at the saddle-side;
He has taken stirrup and hauden rein,
And set the King on his horse o' pride.

"Sleep ye or wake," True Thomas said,
"That sit so still, that muse so long;
Sleep ye or wake? -- till the latter sleep
I trow ye'll not forget my song.

"I ha' harpit a shadow out o' the sun
To stand before your face and cry;
I ha' armed the earth beneath your heel,
And over your head I ha' dusked the sky.

"I ha' harpit ye up to the throne o' God,
I ha' harpit your midmost soul in three;
I ha' harpit ye down to the Hinges o' Hell,
And -- ye -- would -- make -- a Knight o' me!"

(Rudyard Kipling, from the Last Rhyme of True Thomas)


There's nothing more silly about the Bard throwing songs at the enemy than about the Wizard shouting silly chants and waving her arms about. Music is magic.

 

[Lord Twig]

Healing potions the other energy drink... restores energy and luck (we promise)

And I supposed that lack of luck is an obvious condition?

"Here! You look unlucky! Have a healing spell!"

I might go back to the 'builds up resistance to healing magic' explanation. It's not perfect, but it's far from the worst explanation.

 

[Brandegoris]

True Thomas laid his harp away,
And louted low at the saddle-side;
He has taken stirrup and hauden rein,
And set the King on his horse o' pride.

"Sleep ye or wake," True Thomas said,
"That sit so still, that muse so long;
Sleep ye or wake? -- till the latter sleep
I trow ye'll not forget my song.

"I ha' harpit a shadow out o' the sun
To stand before your face and cry;
I ha' armed the earth beneath your heel,
And over your head I ha' dusked the sky.

"I ha' harpit ye up to the throne o' God,
I ha' harpit your midmost soul in three;
I ha' harpit ye down to the Hinges o' Hell,
And -- ye -- would -- make -- a Knight o' me!"

(Rudyard Kipling, from the Last Rhyme of True Thomas)


There's nothing more silly about the Bard throwing songs at the enemy than about the Wizard shouting silly chants and waving her arms about. Music is magic.

Any yet to some of us there is
But to each their own.

 

[Garthanos]

And I supposed that lack of luck is an obvious condition?

I called it an energy drink didnt I? Fatigue is generally somewhat obvious... for those other ineffable things
OR maybe for a mystic it is (insert reason to allow mages to sense magic and healers to have there own flavor
of that here) there is also that concerned and depressed factor which ties in to luck, when its psychology impacting.
Perhaps all of which has similar symptoms to fatigue

 

[Garthanos]

I might go back to the 'builds up resistance to healing magic' explanation. It's not perfect, but it's far from the worst explanation.

That explains high level characters needing more and more healing magic but I am blinking about how it specifically relates to knowing when someone could use some healing juice?

 

[Lord Twig]

I called it an energy drink didnt I? Fatigue is generally somewhat obvious... for those other ineffable things
OR maybe for a mystic it is (insert reason to allow mages to sense magic and healers to have there own flavor
of that here) there is also that concerned and depressed factor which ties in to luck, when its psychology impacting.
Perhaps all of which has similar symptoms to fatigue

None of that really convinces me that it would be something to take a potion of healing for.

That explains high level characters needing more and more healing magic but I am blinking about how it specifically relates to knowing when someone could use some healing juice?

Because they are still injured?

A cut on a 1st level fighter is healed after a single Cure Light Wounds. A cut on a 10th level fighter is helped, but is still there because the healing magic was resisted. So it takes more healing until the cut is completely gone.

It makes sense if HP=meat.