D&D 5E (2014) Which class will get the shaft in XGE?

[Li Shenron]

I know this is really not a major problem, but I've run the numbers with subclasses, and unless I am mistaken it won't be possible for all classes to have at least 5 subclasses after XGE. There will be one class (but technically it's still possible it'll be more than one) which will have only 4 subclasses. So which class will get the shaft?

(Sorcerer is included there if you don't count the SCAG subclasses)

 

[Li Shenron]

Moderators: change the poll to multiple choices.

 

[Horwath]

vote for ranger as in needs overhaul like in UA, but more refined. Little less frontloaded at 1st level.

 

[Shiroiken]

The Ranger is getting the shaft because it won't have the revision in it

 

[Li Shenron]

The Ranger is getting the shaft because it won't have the revision in it

Well that's clearly a separate issue... and I actually think the Ranger will get the Deep Stalker and thus is the least likely to end up with only 4 subclasses.

I think the Druid will get the shaft, with Twilight druids being dropped from XGE. But fortunately the standard Land druid offers 8 subsubclass options, so even with 4 subclasses the class wonn't feel like it doesn't have enough options.

I am more worried that the Bard also might end up with only 4 however. The Swords Bard was revised once in UA however, and this gives some hope.

The Sorcerer won't likely get a third subclass in XGE, but it might get Storm as a SCAG reprint of choice.

 

[gyor]

I voted Druid, I don't think Circle of Twilight was popular enough to have made it.

Still this is misleading, because Circle of Land has a lot of Subsubclasses within it.

 

[Aldarc]

I voted Druid, I don't think Circle of Twilight was popular enough to have made it.

Still this is misleading, because Circle of Land has a lot of Subsubclasses within it.

Not really. Circle of Land is a single subclass with a smattering of different domain spell list options, but it does not offer anything unique in terms of being "a lot of subclasses within it" as you are suggesting here, especially given the presence of suboptimal spell lists that encourage mechanics > theme selections. The differences between Land druid scarcely compares to the magnitude of difference that exist between cleric domains.

 

[Warmaster Horus]

Can we just be happy that a new source book is coming out rather than howl at the moon over who's (potentially) being screwed?

 

[Guest 6801328]

Can we just be happy that a new source book is coming out rather than howl at the moon over who's (potentially) being screwed?

Seriously.

Is having the fewest number of sub-classes really "getting the shaft"? I know the OP wrote "this isn't a big deal" but then why give your thread that title?

 

[Tony Vargas]

Obviously, that'd be the Warlord, still at 0 sub-classes. ;P


Seriously, though, probably the Druid, because it's already fairly narrow, with Moon & Land already covering the classic class pretty well.


More Seriously, the structure of the Sorcerer class makes it /need/ sub-classes, so even if it has 5+, it could still use quite a few more.