D&D 5E Mearls' "Firing" tweet

[Shasarak]

He manages it. And guess what? Manager can tell people to sod off all they want. Sort of the norm, actually. I used to be a manager for a dept, and I didn't need the owner's (CEO) permission to hire and fire people.

Do you also go around firing people that do not work for you?

If so, how does that work out for you?

 

[Sacrosanct]

Do you also go around firing people that do not work for you?

If so, how does that work out for you?

It's quaint that you thought he was being literal.

 

[Zardnaar]

The thing that some people have an issue with I suppose is she got parachuted into a top level job in the RPG world with no D&D design credits. There are posters here on ENworld with more published work than her.

The women Paizo hired more or less done the same thing Mearls did. They worked for 3pp/did freelance work, got published, got noticed, got more work, eventually got hired. Amanda and Crystal did that, I was looking through old Dragons and found an interview with Mearls in 2000 Dragon d20 special. Mearls also had a few adventures published in Dungeon for 3.5.

The new hire has skipped that process which I think is what a few people would expect, she has not done her dues in the trenches so to speak. Its not unprecedented in the D&D world but you would probably have to go back to TSR to find examples as most of the 3E and 4E crew were either from TSR or had been published in things like Dragon and Dungeon. With no Dragon and Dungeon you would expect published 3pp and freelance work and the DMGuild.

IDK if its unique in the modern D&D era, but it is unusual to say the least hence why I think some people are accusing her of being unqualified. She has skipped a few steps most designers have gone down. Getting published and getting noticed has been the more traditional way of doing things I suppose nothing to do with her gender although it looks like some idiots have made it an issue.

 

[Sacrosanct]

True, but he can't really fire people of course.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't being literal. Treating his statement like it was literal seems to be deliberately missing the point to criticize him.

 

[ad_hoc]

* making comments about how people in power (like white men) cannot be the victims of discrimination is just as harmful to the discourse as saying WMP doesn't exist

Nope.

When systemic racism has caused you hardships throughout your life and you have been harassed, threatened, and abused, by bigots who have the safety of being in power, then it is completely fine for you to dislike those people.

This is especially true of those individuals in power who use their pain as a way to further attack them. They call them racists. They say 'not all men!' and then silence them by taking the podium.

Reverse racism doesn't exist. Reverse sexism doesn't exist.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...please-stop-pretending-reverse-racism-is-real

 

[billd91]

The new hire has skipped that process which I think is what a few people would expect, she has not done her dues in the trenches so to speak. Its not unprecedented in the D&D world but you would probably have to go back to TSR to find examples as most of the 3E and 4E crew were either from TSR or had been published in things like Dragon and Dungeon. With no Dragon and Dungeon you would expect published 3pp and freelance work.

That is not a hiring process. That's a career path. A hiring process is learning about a job, submitting a resume and application, getting interviewed, and being selected. That's a process. Who the blazes cares if she's "paid her dues"? Who gets to set that as a requirement anyway? Nobody in the peanut gallery, that's for sure! Nobody has that authority but the people doing the hiring and if they were sufficiently impressed by the "dues" she paid in her previous work, even if not D&D related, more power to her.

 

[Shasarak]

It's quaint that you thought he was being literal.

So not so well, eh? Look at you like your kinda crazy, hmm?

Well too late you are fired* from this forum.



Obviously not literally fired, more like fired in an impotent Mearls kind of way that means you can just keep on doing what ever you want to.

 

[ArchfiendBobbie]

You're implying a moral equivalence between the harassing misogynistic gatekeepers he's referring to, and the people who think harassing misogynistic gatekeepers suck.

And what he's thinking is probably, "hey the D&D community would be healthier and better off without those folks."

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No. Then I would have said both sides are trolling equally rather than telling Mearls not to feed the trolls. He was addressing only one side.

The issue of tactics is an entirely different matter, and a much more complex argument.

What I am saying, in effect, is that this fight is way too nasty to get involved with.

 

[robus]

It’s funny that people try to deny that privilege is a thing because it is exactly the fear of losing said privilege that drives the histrionics (offending 99% of customers!) and pearl clutching (Mearls should quit to save what’s left of the company!).

 

[billd91]

What I am saying, in effect, is that this fight is way too nasty to get involved with.

Funny, I'd have said the fight is far too important to not get involved with.