OD&D On the Origins of Classes (1e, OD&D)

[lowkey13]

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[Tony Vargas]

But what, exactly, Shadowjack or Cugel added? Don't know. I only know that Gygax specifically referred to them. Is there some Lieber influence? Maybe. Don't know. I'd love to see a reference to it!

Specifically referred to them like he did Bishop Odo &c when claiming the Cleric as his own?

 

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[digitalelf]

The creator of the thief class (ala "Manual of Aurania") had been an active participant over on the Paizo forums as "DrDeth" (https://paizo.com/people/DrDeth). Unfortunately, he does not seem to be currently active there as his last post there is dated December 10th of 2018.

Here is the thread were he discusses his part in the origin: http://odd74.proboards.com/thread/3788/origin-thief-character-class?page=3

 

[TarionzCousin]

Gray Mouser was a failed magician's apprentice before he turned to a life of thievery. If I recall correctly, he dabbled in a spell or two later in his story as well.

 

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[TwoSix]

So, anyone have ideas on the Assassin?

Have you looked behind you?

 

[Tony Vargas]

So, anyone have ideas on the Assassin?

Stealth? Disguise? Death attacks? Sounds like a ninja.

Leather armor & shield? ...no idea.

Ninjas hadn't quite become pop culture icons in the 70s, I don't think. And the iconic assassin of that & the preceding decades, if you even remembered he was supposed to be one, would've been James Bond. Maybe Bronson as the Mechanic. ...I'm probably missing something. Did Nehwon have an Assassins' Guild? I seem to recall they had Beggars' and Thieves' Guilds.

The eponymous Assassins, btw, hid daggers in scrolls so they could stabbed nobles in the guise of petitioners. Not much help there.

 

[lowkey13]

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[lowkey13]

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