D&D General The Satanic Panic never really died?

[Garthanos]

The early jewish magical beliefs included a Golem spell where you breath life into a clay thing. (This is how Yhwh created humans)

D&D having Golems is a rather religious magic excerpt

 

[Xenonnonex]

What's the issue, exactly? I wrote that some companies don't contain "the same religious baggage that Wizards does." Sure, some do (like Paizo, as you keep mentioning). But some don't, proving one doesn't have to have "religious baggage" in the game. Far from being "completely false," it's objectively true. I don't even understand how this is a controversial statement.

I am sorry you keep missing the word "some." It's been there since the beginning. You misread it at first; hey, it happens. Or maybe you inferred something that isn't there. This doubling down on the error is astoundingly stubborn behaviour though.

"Other companies" has been there since the beginning. Not "some companies". You misread your own post. And then inferred something that is not there. Hey it happens. Likewise on astoundingly stubborn behaviour.

 

[Eric V]

"Other companies" has been there since the beginning. Not "some companies". You misread your own post. And then inferred something that is not there. Hey it happens. Likewise on astoundingly stubborn behaviour.

Other companies =/= ALL other companies. That inference is on your part.

 

[Garthanos]

Ironically I am one of those who actually thought D&D "miracles" felt way too un miraculous.

 

[Garthanos]

I wonder how long this thread will remain open now that religious discussion is happening full bore.

I think I am going to do an unwatch in hopes that helps my sanity because Satanic Panic was a strange and silly thing even then.

 

[FrogReaver]

Yhwh had a wife named Asheerah whose temples were active as recent as 240 BCE stories change. I mean the great story of not being the one to judge ie throwing stones wasn't in any version (that we have recorded) before the 600s CE (I think that was the dates).

Yet the adultress being forgiven was referenced in the 300s and was quite accepted in a majority of manuscripts since. Seems to me the evidence for it at this point while not 100% is significantly stronger than the evidence against it.

Archeologists were heavily pressured against revealing the evidence for things like Asheerah because they went contrary to popular recent dogma.

Nice conspiracy theory - I think the finding that the ancient Israelites didn't always adhere to their God's teachings isn't controversial. For example, many of the warnings in the bible are about the Israelites chasing after false gods and being punished for it etc. And you want us to believe that what you are referencing is anything but that?

 

[FrogReaver]

I wonder how long this thread will remain open now that religious discussion is happening full bore.

Sounds more like a few completely disparaging religion and a few others standing up to that.

 

[FrogReaver]

Anti intellectualism is... a sin... (yes, intended sarcasm)

Just because my intellectualism doesn't agree with yours doesn't make me anti-intellectual.

 

[Zardnaar]

I think there's a bit of leeway here considering there was a biblical quote in the OP.

The Bible as such didn't exist until 325AD or so.

Some churches predating that have slightly different texts. Lost books of the Bible also exist.

Obviously there's a biblical influence on D&D.

How acceptable D&D is to people for whatever reason will vary.

If you find someone who doesn't like D&D due to the satanic pattern, say thank you and give them some flowers.

Free publicity it helped make D&D lol.

 

[Sepulchrave II]

I mean when God himself has spoken something then it's no so much an add on as it is a clarification - no?

Isaiah 45:5
I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

And even more evidence that the gods spoken about were viewed as "false gods"

Deuteronomy 4:28
And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.

When the Tanakh was coalescing, the Deuteronomical school of thought was in the ascendant; we would expect to find the inclusion of texts which advocated a strict Yahweh-only perspective in support of that.

The Bible which we have represents a very narrow window with various sectarian filters into ancient Judaean and Samarian thought. The archaeology tells a different story.