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.....and I'll end it here, by saying that he wasn't joking about the Irish. That's the point. In fact, he wasn't given "room to joke" because he was Irish. Because, again, Swift didn't really consider himself Irish,* the Irish weren't the audience, and that was a different time.

The point is that if you read that and think it's really about punching down against the poor and the Irish, then you're really missing the point. Which often happens with satire, sarcasm, sardonic takes, black humor, irony, and other forms of comedy. It's really odd to me that someone would look at easily the most famous historical example of satire and say, "Yeah, Swift only got away with it because he was born in Ireland." It just doesn't compute. It's completely ahistorical.


As for the OP- Black Widow. Looks good. About time.


*The quote from Swift is that he was an "Englishman born in Ireland" and a member of the Anglican Church.
You’ve completely misunderstood my point about Swift. I never suggested that he was punching down on the Irish. 🤷‍♂️
 


I just wanted to complain about another cheap, stupid, low-hanging-fruit fat joke in a Marvel movie for a sec. I didn't mean for it devolve into a 40-post argument about the legacy of George Carlin.

The movie looks pretty cool though.
 


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