D&D 5E Is 5e the Least-Challenging Edition of D&D?

[Helldritch]

I on the other hand, love to play with people that have different tastes and point of view than mine. They can help you discover a taste for something you did not know you had. Yes we can have some arguments on some rules, rulings and ways of handling this and that, but we always keep it civil and respectful. As long as there is nothing toxic or disrespectful towards anyone everything is fine.

Up to a certain point, different tastes and beliefs are necessary for a healthy game.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

I on the other hand, love to play with people that have different tastes and point of view than mine. They can help you discover a taste for something you did not know you had. Yes we can have some arguments on some rules, rulings and ways of handling this and that, but we always keep it civil and respectful. As long as there is nothing toxic or disrespectful towards anyone everything is fine.

Up to a certain point, different tastes and beliefs are necessary for a healthy game.

Maybe, but for me, my favorite D&D group consisted of 7 colleagues from an improvisational theater group. We were all big Harry Potter and LotR fans and preferred hard alcohol to beer. We were all quite similar people, but boy did we enjoy some great D&D together.

 

[Helldritch]

Improvisation, Harry Potter and LotR... If you tell me you love Terry Goodkind, Star Wars, Stargate and Star Trek too I'll move to your area!

But jokes aside, as much as I say that different tastes are good, you've got to have some common grounds too. Otherwise it would not be fun. One group I have is made up of my friends. The second group is made up of accointances that happens to all be DMs. This is where I get my fair share of arguments but God I love that group. We play every two weeks and its a blast. They are all power gamers and it shows. I had to find ways within the rules to challenge them.

And once in a while, we reunite and share stories about our ruling with our other groups and what we do to challenge our players. Discussing the rules and well, doing most of what we do here but with a nice brew in our favorite pub.

 

[MichaelSomething]

If you really want to challenge your players, make them face a monster that can only be defeated by....

TALKING ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!!!!!!

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

If you really want to challenge your players, make them face a monster that can only be defeated by....

TALKING ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!!!!!!

This is the first time I wish I had a "Dislike" button.

 

[Helldritch]

If you really want to challenge your players, make them face a monster that can only be defeated by....

TALKING ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!!!!!!

I laughed, l laughed, and I'm still laughing.
But the idea has some merits. Maybe as a one shot BBEG where making him cry would destroy him...

 

[JeffB]

Maybe as a one shot BBEG where making him cry would destroy him...

In the PF2 Oblivion Oath stream game- The Cleric has this divine power where she can "guilt" opponents- It's hysterical watching Sara Marie (the player) trying to guilt a Ghoul and make it re-think it's actions. IIRC she also tried to use it on a Redcap after he had murdered a half dozen NPCs and the party was making it's way through a river of the victim's blood in the Redcap's cave.

 

[Ratskinner]

I've never had a problem with it. Just like in all games, I would never play with a DM who wasn't super chill or play with people who weren't super chill. Play with chill people; it solves a lot of problems.

In other words, don't play with a DM who is the type of person who would use "earworms" (as mentioned above). Moreover, play with people who have your same taste in literature. I've always found that hammers out most of the kinks.

Well, see, that's my point.

I'm not complaining about such players or GMs. I'm just saying they exist, and hence the GM whimsy.

 

[Ratskinner]

in my case it was often the party shifting roles a nbit for an odd situation or making use of the terrain/room that they needed to care about in order to get cover & circumstance bonuses among other stuff. In 5e you only see ythat kinda thing happen when the crunchy types have some life issue that causes them to miss a session leaving say a rogue & sorcerer without the usual fighter & paladin. Even then, the rogue/sorcerer quickly realize that they don't really need to bother as much as they thought they would need to.

Just a note: You may have had that experience with 5e, but it is not universal. Nor is the experience with the OSR games.

 

[tetrasodium]

Just a note: You may have had that experience with 5e, but it is not universal. Nor is the experience with the OSR games.

I you make it sound like I'm the only one who did.. "luckily" for those who did 5e decided that such gameplay is a badWrongFun type of gameplay eh?