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I could make a REALLY good joke about the above post but i dont wanna get banned.
Aslo, heh, former sentence is relevant to this thread.
Aslo, heh, former sentence is relevant to this thread.
Ugh, I should have known better than to encourage discussion of old editions. I was feeling pensive and nostalgic, and I wanted to help people relive their memories of the days of yore with me. Remember filling in the numbers on your dice with a crayon? Remember the first time you saw that dinosaur in The Isle of Dread and you were like whaaaaaaaaaat?! Remember your first failed save vs. poison?
Overreaction or no, I don't think the general reaction should be "Ah, well, what you gonna do?" Lowkey was a highly visible and highly interactive poster over the past 5 years, and it's not like his posts were any sort of actual edition war malfeasance. It was dramatically overwrought bashing of an edition virtually no one is invested in for humor reasons.
I mean, I don't think anyone rationally thinks his displayed "hatred" of gnomes and paladins is actually inflammatory.
It was dramatically overwrought bashing of an edition virtually no one is invested in for humor reasons.
Umbran, @Dannyalcatraz you both have my respect as moderators and as posters. Please take the below as as comments just on this, not as any larger critique. You two do a bang up job.That's really a secondary argument. Let us be clear on a major point here - a point we all should have learned in kindergarten, or the equivalent.
When you offend someone, you don't start by trying to prove at length that, in fact, what you just did was actually okay, or should be allowed. You don't stick by your guns with no remorse, trying to prove your entitlement when you are repeatedly told that someone was hurt. That is not persuasive.
You start with, "I'm sorry." You can work out whether the issue was overblown or an error afterwards.
That's really a secondary argument. Let us be clear on a major point here - a point we all should have learned in kindergarten, or the equivalent.
When you offend someone, you don't start by trying to prove at length that, in fact, what you just did was actually okay, or should be allowed. You don't stick by your guns with no remorse, trying to prove your entitlement when you are repeatedly told that someone was hurt. That is not persuasive.
You start with, "I'm sorry." You can work out whether the issue was overblown or an error afterwards.
2) I agreed with the reporting ENWorlder that the general bash on 2Ed was out of line. At the height of the Edition Wars, it probably would have earned not just booting from the thread (as I pointed out but didn’t do) but an actual ban from ENWorld. Just because we don’t enforce like we used to, it does not follow that certain behavior will be given free reign.