D&D 5E Survey: What should the next Magic the Gathering Campaign Setting be?

[WayOfTheFourElements]

I'm curious what do you mean by this? What is your issue with IP law and how it effects settings?

Because WotC owns the rights to Planescape, etc. no one else can publish under those IPs without the threat of legal ramifications. So not only odes WotC refuse to publish their own 5e Planescape, etc. materials, they also prevent anyone else from doing so.

They do the same with old RPGs like DragonQuest, too.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

The Wildemount sourcebook was by far the best of the campaign setting books for 5e we've gotten though.

Also dismissing it like that is just ridiculous. Every setting was just somebodies houserules. D&D was just some guys houserules. It’s the most nonsensical complaint I can imagine about a new setting.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Because WotC owns the rights to Planescape, etc. no one else can publish under those IPs without the threat of legal ramifications. So not only odes WotC refuse to publish their own 5e Planescape, etc. materials, they also prevent anyone else from doing so.

They do the same with old RPGs like DragonQuest, too.

So you can't make money from exploiting someone else's ideas. Perfectly moral - it's the alternative - you can do whatever you like with other people's ideas - creativity deserves no reward - that is immoral.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

So you can't make money from exploiting someone else's ideas. Perfectly moral - it's the alternative - you can do whatever you like with other people's ideas - creativity deserves no reward - that is immoral.

I'm not advocated removing IPs laws, but I think if a company does not actively use that IP, rights to it should be lost about 6 or 7 years.

Besides, WotC has the Dungeon Masters' Guild. The could open up those settings, make money, but they prefer to sit on them.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I'm not advocated removing IPs laws, but I think if a company does not actively use that IP, rights to it should be lost about 6 or 7 years.

Hardly an issue of "morality". But I think you are using the anonymous faceless "company" as a convenient excuse to avoid crediting the real human beings who actually worked hard to create those things, and deserve to be rewarded for it. 6 or 7 years is nothing, some of the things you are talking about took longer than that to make in the first place.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

But the copyright can't avoid to publish "spiritual succesors". Videogame industry has got lots of example about this.

* Now I am thinking Kaladesh has got magitek but also vehicles, and enemies who ride a vehicle with motor, even with a magic motor, may be power-broken. Do you remember Link's motorbyke, the master cycle zero? Now try to imagine PCs fighting against goblins using steampunk tech to ride motorbykes or any mechanical construct mount with wheels. How should be the Challenging-Ratin or XPs reward for an enemy who enjoy this "special help"? Or that magic-technology to create artificial muscles used for machines and motors, for example a crossbow what reloads itself.

Kaladesh with that aether-magic is like a first playtesting for a new version of d20 Modern.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

Hardly an issue of "morality". But I think you are using the anonymous faceless "company" as a convenient excuse to avoid crediting the real human beings who actually worked hard to create those things, and deserve to be rewarded for it. 6 or 7 years is nothing, some of the things you are talking about took longer than that to make in the first place.

Are any of the authors of DragonQuest, Birthright, and other smaller IPs still working at WotC? The creators don't even have rights to their own work. Not even the original authors can continue the IP.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Are any of the authors of DragonQuest, Birthright, and other smaller IPs still working at WotC? The creators don't even have rights to their own work. Not even the original authors can continue the IP.

If I sell you my bicycle can I continue to ride it? If I make a car whilst working for Ford, do I have the right to drive it?

If those people, or anyone ease, thought those IPs had value they could buy or lease them from WotC. We have seen with Ed Greenwood and Keith Baker that WotC maintains a good relationship with content creators who are not employees.

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon said "property is theft". Pierre-Joseph Proudhon was wrong, theft is theft, and that applies to ideas just as bicycles.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

If I sell you my bicycle can I continue to ride it? If I make a car whilst working for Ford, do I have the right to drive it?

If those people, or anyone ease, thought those IPs had value they could buy or lease them from WotC. We have seen with Ed Greenwood and Keith Baker that WotC maintains a good relationship with content creators who are not employees.

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon said "property is theft". Pierre-Joseph Proudhon was wrong, theft is theft, and that applies to ideas just as bicycles.

Except IP theft is not actually theft. The original creator loses nothing in any real-world sense, while Ford would loose the car or I would lose the bicycle.

Like our notions of race, nations, friendship, and morality, IP law has no solid foundation in reality outside the human mind.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Except IP theft is not actually theft. The original creator loses nothing in any real-world sense

Bollocks.

The fact that someone else publishes something PROVES it has value. The fact that someone else is profiting PROVES it is theft.

Like our notions of race, nations, friendship, and morality, IP law has no solid foundation in reality outside the human mind.

No law has foundation in reality outside the human mind.

"Take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder and sieve it through the finest sieve and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. and yet... and yet you act as if there is some ideal order in the world, as if there is some... some rightness in the universe by which it may be judged."
-Sir Terry Pratchett

However, there is also this:

"The labourer deserves his wages."
- Jesus, known as the Christ