Best Superhero

Ryujin · Jun 23, 2020

Worrgrendel said:
The problem with Tony is that he keeps making really bad judgement decisions on things and then makes something really bad that he then turns around and makes another really bad judgement call on it to try to fix his first bad decision and then makes another bad decision to fix the fix for the first bad decision and no one but Cap calls him out on it. He has good intent but no impulse control and no self accountability for his actions.

Age of Ultron is the ultimate embodiment of this.
Tony: Hey let's create this ultra powerful robot with alien technology that we don't fully understand because: we can!
Oops, now Ultron is trying to destroy the world.
Tony: I know! I'll create ANOTHER ultra powerful robot with alien technology that we don't fully understand and it'll work out just fine this time guys I promise because: REASONS!
Avengers: Great idea! What can possibly go wrong?
Vision: seriously guys you only got lucky here. Let's be honest.

Civil war was really about Cap finally unable to put up with Tony's bulls@#t.

Yeeeeaaahhhh..... He got railroaded in Age of Ultron. In the comics it was Hank Pym, who was also a master of Bad Choices (tm).

Dannyalcatraz · Jun 23, 2020

Personally, I like that Marvel humanized their heroes- before DC, at least- so that they DO make bad decisions.

the Jester · Jun 23, 2020

MoonSong said:
If we are going to go the way of the legion, I'd prefer Duplicate Girl. She has the one power I'd love to have in real life.

Do you mean Triplicate Girl/Duo Damsel?

MoonSong · Jun 23, 2020

the Jester said:
Do you mean Triplicate Girl/Duo Damsel?

She changes names faster than some people change cars. In Legion of three worlds she showed up an improved version of her power before proclaiming herself Duplicate Damsel and I quote "How did I manage with just three of me!?"

After New 52 she was renamed Duplicate Girl.

the Jester · Jun 23, 2020

MoonSong said:
She changes names faster than some people change cars. In Legion of three worlds she showed up an improved version of her power before proclaiming herself Duplicate Damsel and I quote "How did I manage with just three of me!?"

After New 52 she was renamed Duplicate Girl.

I didn't realize this!

I'm an old-school Legion fan and found the reboots disappointing after Giffen left the "Five Years Later" series. Until the current new version, I haven't kept up with much LSH stuff (though I did read the Legion of Three Worlds story, but don't remember than bit).

Worrgrendel · Jun 23, 2020

Ryujin said:
Yeeeeaaahhhh..... He got railroaded in Age of Ultron. In the comics it was Hank Pym, who was also a master of Bad Choices (tm).

Sure he did. And I know Hank was the original (comics) creator of Ultron. But let's be honest, Tony wasn't much better in any of the other Marvel movies he was in. Look at his actions all through Infinity War. Can't get any more selfish than that.

Ryujin · Jun 23, 2020

Worrgrendel said:
Sure he did. And I know Hank was the original (comics) creator of Ultron. But let's be honest, Tony wasn't much better in any of the other Marvel movies he was in. Look at his actions all through Infinity War. Can't get any more selfish than that.

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MoonSong · Jun 23, 2020

the Jester said:
I didn't realize this!

I'm an old-school Legion fan and found the reboots disappointing after Giffen left the "Five Years Later" series. Until the current new version, I haven't kept up with much LSH stuff (though I did read the Legion of Three Worlds story, but don't remember than bit).

It is among the last batch of new comics I bought so the whole series was forever burned into memory. Money started getting tight at the time -you know, because of the 2009 crisis- and things at the time seemed to turn into less interesting stuff. Then they announced the new 52 and I took it as permission to jump off.

BookBarbarian · Jun 23, 2020

MoonSong said:
I prefer Wally, definitely. To me Barry used to work better as a symbol and legendary hero that Wally aspired to honor. In my opinion there was no reason to bring him back. He had completed his journey and gotten his happy ending already. By bringing him back, they just reset his life and life path, and what for? to give him angst!?

I do feel that Wally has gotten the shaft since Barry's return. Of all the original Teen Titan's he had risen the highest and was a super popular character to boot.