D&D 5E It's official, WOTC hates Rangers (Tasha's version of Favored Foe is GARBAGE)

[Paul Farquhar]

The favored enemy options that Larian have for the ranger in BG3 are far more interesting and rangery that this favored foe crap.
It’s sad that a videogame studio understand the ranger class better than Wotc does.

It's funny how people on the Larian forums grumble that BG3 is different to 5e, and people on D&D forums grumble that 5e is different to BG3...

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Rangers were dope in 1E.

Triple weapon specialisation and an ever-expanding class of creatures that were 'Giant type' plus some not usless spellcasting, and some OK other abilities.

Overpowered =/= good.

If people hadn't played the 1st edition ranger because it was overpowered I doubt it would have made it into 2nd.

 

[Olrox17]

It's funny how people on the Larian forums grumble that BG3 is different to 5e, and people on D&D forums grumble that 5e is different to BG3...

That would be quite funny, except I'm not grumbling that 5e is different than BG3.

I'm disappointed that the esteemed D&D game designing team, put in the situation of having to figure out an alternate class feature to favored enemy, could only come up with something as bland, lame, weak and uninspired as this version of favored foe.
Meanwhile, the Larian design team, placed in the same situation (favored enemy as written clearly would not have worked in a videogame environment), came up with something that is far from perfect, but at least is flavorful and useful.

 

[cbwjm]

That would be quite funny, except I'm not grumbling that 5e is different than BG3.

I'm disappointed that the esteemed D&D game designing team, put in the situation of having to figure out an alternate class feature to favored enemy, could only come up with something as bland, lame, weak and uninspired as this version of favored foe.
Meanwhile, the Larian design team, placed in the same situation (favored enemy as written clearly would not have worked in a videogame environment), came up with something that is far from perfect, but at least is flavorful and useful.

Pretty sure that was Mike Mearls working with Larian. You can see the early work he did on the Happy Fun Hour in the changes for the BG3 ranger. I'd have hoped that he'd bring it back to 5e proper but the designers seem very reluctant to actually release updates to a class.

 

[Olrox17]

Pretty sure that was Mike Mearls working with Larian. You can see the early work he did on the Happy Fun Hour in the changes for the BG3 ranger. I'd have hoped that he'd bring it back to 5e proper but the designers seem very reluctant to actually release updates to a class.

I mean, they are going to do just that in Tasha. Sure, it's alternate class features, not updates, but it's a fine line.
If Mearls himself was directly involved in Larian's ranger, it is even more puzzling how we ended up with something crappy like favored foe published.

 

[Don Durito]

Pretty sure that was Mike Mearls working with Larian. You can see the early work he did on the Happy Fun Hour in the changes for the BG3 ranger. I'd have hoped that he'd bring it back to 5e proper but the designers seem very reluctant to actually release updates to a class.

Here is the happy fun hour ranger.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Here is the happy fun hour ranger.

I

Oh I like it.

 

[CapnZapp]

It's gotten positive ratings on surveys, positive reviews on people reviewing it, and high level of people playing it on all objective measures of classes people play.

As others have already pointed out, you are reading way too much into this.

 

[Horwath]

Here is the happy fun hour ranger.

this is more like it.

simple, elegant and Works everywhere, every time.
Not requierign any mental gymnastics that wotc are trying to do, when simple bonus speed, more movement types or some expertise added does the job just fine.

 

[Lanefan]

I'm with WotC. Rangers have always been bad. They where bad in 1st edition, 2nd edition, 3rd edition and 5e. I hope that come 6e WotC have the courage to axe them all together.

What makes you say they were bad in 1e?