WotC Gale Force 9 Sues WotC [Updated]

In the second lawsuit against WotC in recent weeks (Dragonlance authors Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman sued the company for breach of contract and other things about a month ago), Gale Force 9 is suing the company for breach of contract and implied duty of good faith.

Gale Force 9 produces miniatures, cards, DM screens, and other D&D accessories. They’re asking for damages of nearly a million dollars, as well as an injunction to prevent WotC from terminating the licensing contract.

From the suit, it looks like WotC wanted to end a licensing agreement a year early. When GF9 didn't agree to that, WotC indicated that they would refuse to approve any new licensed products from GF9. It looks like the same sort of approach they took with Weis and Hickman, which also resulted in a lawsuit. The dispute appears to relate to some product translations in non-US markets. More information as I hear it!

UPDATE. GF9's CEO, Jean-Paul Brisigotti, spoke to ICv2 and said: "After twelve years of working with Wizards, we find ourselves in a difficult place having to utilize the legal system to try and resolve an issue we have spent the last six months trying to amicably handle between us without any success. We still hope this can be settled between us but the timeline for a legal resolution has meant we have been forced to go down this path at this time."

 

[MGibster]

Yeah that's fine but ENworld I think skews a bit older and a bit more middle class professionals.

En World skews younger not older. The bulk of users here are in their 20s and 30s I think with us older folks for are 40+ in the minority. I would suspect that RPGs as a hobby skew towards the middle class though.

Insisting it's cheap when it's not that cheap and competes with opportunity cost is the main point.

It's all relative I suppose. I'm one of those old 40+ people for whom the price of books is negligible. It isn't money that keeps me from buying an RPG it's the thought of having a book I don't use cluttering my house that does the trick. But I could afford to buy RPG books even when I was younger and had to specifically budget for them. Role playing games are are a relatively inexpensive hobby.

There's cheaper hobbies that are easier to do.

I suppose that's true but I suspect RPGs are my least expensive hobby. I also like to hike, fish, and camp which aren't expensive activities in and off themselves but here in the US you need a vehicle, special clothing, footwear, and equipment, and you have to have the time to do it.

 

[Zardnaar]

En World skews younger not older. The bulk of users here are in their 20s and 30s I think with us older folks for are 40+ in the minority. I would suspect that RPGs as a hobby skew towards the middle class though.



It's all relative I suppose. I'm one of those old 40+ people for whom the price of books is negligible. It isn't money that keeps me from buying an RPG it's the thought of having a book I don't use cluttering my house that does the trick. But I could afford to buy RPG books even when I was younger and had to specifically budget for them. Role playing games are are a relatively inexpensive hobby.




I suppose that's true but I suspect RPGs are my least expensive hobby. I also like to hike, fish, and camp which aren't expensive activities in and off themselves but here in the US you need a vehicle, special clothing, footwear, and equipment, and you have to have the time to do it.

Same here but a lot of the tracks could be done on city clothing or gumboots.

Depends how long you want to go for.

Camp in camping ground or near convenient town.

Camp near convenient lake or river. May or may not have facilities.

Camp out in the mountains for a week may or may not have a hut.

Campings still mostly a middle class thing although you'll get the opportunity at school afaik.

Kinda depends on where you live as well ymmv.

 

[MGibster]

Camp in camping ground or near convenient town.

FYI: When it comes to camping in the United States if you're not on a campground there's a good chance you're homeless.

 

[Zardnaar]

FYI: When it comes to camping in the United States if you're not on a campground there's a good chance you're homeless.

Here there's free campsites along the highway, paid ones with cabins, facilities vetc then out in the wop wops with hiking tracksvand huts.

 

[Hussar]

Yes, but, aren't the free campsites beside the highways used for dogging?

 

[Zardnaar]

Yes, but, aren't the free campsites beside the highways used for dogging?

Dogging?

 

[Luminous]

As much as I like 5e and many of the products WotC puts out for it, I'm starting to wonder if WotC might be becoming a toxic company to do business with (or at least, more toxic than usual).

That's why I hope the new owner of D&D (or WOTC) is different than Hasbro.

 

[Luminous]

Digging deeper, it looks like WotC wasn't happy with some Korean translations and some French translations:

If this isn't Wizard's fault, maybe they should countersue!

 

[TheSword]

Here there's free campsites along the highway, paid ones with cabins, facilities vetc then out in the wop wops with hiking tracksvand huts.

As someone who camps and hikes a fair bit... camping requires a tent, a method of heating food and liquid, usually gas stove, pots & pans, usually of the type you don’t use on a cooker at home, a gas/solar/batter light, some form of solar or battery charger for your phone/gps, it needs walking maps usually, walking boots, waterproof gear, rucksack, thick woolen socks, sleeping bag, bedroll.

In the UK that lot would set you back £150 - £1500 depending on how good quality stuff you want to get. That’s before you even get to the fact that there are fees for campsites, items like calor gas are consumable and the items about will wear out over time if used regularly.

Maybe this stuff is rock bottom prices in NZ. But I doubt it. Camping and is the last thing I would have picked as a cheap hobby.

 

[Zardnaar]

As someone who camps and hikes a fair bit... camping requires a tent, a method of heating food and liquid, usually gas stove, pots & pans, usually of the type you don’t use on a cooker at home, a gas/solar/batter light, some form of solar or battery charger for your phone/gps, it needs walking maps usually, walking boots, waterproof gear, rucksack, thick woolen socks, sleeping bag, bedroll.

In the UK that lot would set you back £150 - £1500 depending on how good quality stuff you want to get. That’s before you even get to the fact that there are fees for campsites, items like calor gas are consumable and the items about will wear out over time if used regularly.

Maybe this stuff is rock bottom prices in NZ. But I doubt it. Camping and is the last thing I would have picked as a cheap hobby.

Depends what you mean by camping.

DoC here builds huts you can sleep in. Or you borrow a tent and go camp beside river in normal clothes.

Lots of freedom camping sites as well. Freedom means free usually full of German tourists. Few 10-30 minutes drive. Campsites start from $3.50 if they're not free.

But yeah if you're going hiking into mountains for a week you probably want the nice stuff tents optional depending on where you go.

It's actually legal for me to go to the CBD, pitch a tent and camp for 24 hours. We also slept on a bench one night for free (legally).

Freedom camping

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